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<0> efnet all ****ed up today or something?
<0> couldnt connect on the first 10 servers i tried
<1> heh
<2> HEROIN
<3> !op
<3> bull**** bot aint recog'n me
<4> well it doesn't work like that
<4> so get your bull**** syntax correct
<4> =P
<3> lol ry4n the pw isnt working he set it my ip
<3> and my ip changed lol
<3> so its my host
<3> yello
<5> hidee ho
<6> dinner
<5> ok
<5> see ya in a few
<5> ty
<5> hey i was wondering...
<7> =)
<8> ?
<7> much better =)
<7> oh
<8> dolophine , good nick
<7> ty
<9> ***hole opers
<8> sup ?
<9> kline for bull****
<8> yeh they r all idiots
<9> they fear me verio :)
<8> hah
<9> i will join ibm and they will fear more
<8> k brb morning cig .
<7> morning?
<8> heh yeh
<7> where
<8> i live not on earth
<8> ;p
<7> anyone in here on buprenorphine?
<7> (Subutex, Suboxone)
<10> i was in rehab
<10> works great
<10> really good stuff
<8> i was on bupe for over a yr
<8> 18mg's
<7> how many mg
<10> 10000x better then methadone
<8> it made me look like death , during that time
<8> depends for what person
<8> it doesnt work same for every1
<10> i was on 12mg at my max dose
<10> 4 4 6 12 12 6 4 2
<10> is how they give it in rehab
<10> well most ppl get only upto 8
<7> what mg of meth did you have to get down to before you switched to suboxone
<10> tops
<10> i got 12
<8> im on 120ml's m;done for back pain , was prescribed oxy's etc, then relaped into smoking heaps of dope then went on methadone
<8> methadone for me and people who been on it for 20-30 yrs , is better
<8> just gotto look after urself
<8> as a drug, methadone is more reliable than bupe
<10> naw
<8> though i wasnt using on bupe either
<8> the fun part was
<10> subutex works 10x better
<8> WHEN I WENT COLD TURKEY FROM 18MG'S A DAY FOR A YEAR, TO 0
<11> hey are any of you guys from detroit?
<7> how many mg of subutex does it take to = 10mg of methadone?
<11> or the michigan area?
<8> i was nearly climbing walls in jail
<10> about the same dolophine
<10> there jsut as strong
<8> thats reason why i decided to give up
<8> not much research been done about bupe
<10> liek i said
<10> rehab gives 4-12
<8> ITS NOT MADE FOR LONG TERM USE
<10> no
<8> noone knows how it works, after u take it for long time
<7> they cant be the same - methadone comes in 5 and 10 and bup comes in 2 and 8mg
<11> if anyone is from the MI area, PM me please...
<10> subutex is for short term use
<10> and it works great
<8> methadone cant b compared to bupe
<8> methadone = full agonist
<8> bupe partial
<8> k i brb .
<7> right
<7> so they feel totally diff?
<8> i did pharm for 2yrs and have over 1000hrs of reading bout all ****
<10> i like subutex better
<8> hehh brb
<8> some do
<10> it calms u down alot more
<8> many dont
<7> I am still a licensed pharmacy intern.
<8> hehe
<8> methadone makes me go on the nod, within first 5 lines of reading
<8> ;)
<10> i wouldent take it to try and get high though
<7> 11 years experience
<8> but we all different
<10> i wouldent take either to get high
<10> if i could get either id just stop doing dope
<10> heh
<7> they tell me i have to get down to 60 or 40mg of methadone before i can start on Suboxone here
<8> all drugs work diff on us , some may take vali's and b ok. where as i knew a chick who had hardcore allergic reaction
<8> nearly died
<8> 40
<8> recommended
<8> ye
<8> and still
<7> i started on 120mg 4 months ago. im down to 60mg now
<8> u will not b started on a high dose of bupe
<8> 8mg's
<8> is initial
<8> and u have to b in a state of withdrawal
<7> yes i knew that part
<7> ive read the literature
<8> due to antagonist properties of bupe
<8> else u r fckt ;)
<7> more because of the Narcan than the bup
<8> but withdrawal from 18mg's to 0 was brutal
<8> anxiety , is crazy
<7> wonder what % use Subutex and what % use Suboxone?
<8> i havent tried quitting m'done yet, but as many peopel told me, its even more intense, . cos its stored in our body , and is biggest opiate molecule
<7> ive never been an IV user
<8> opioid
<8> same
<8> im scared of needles
<8> k i brb
<8> woke up recently
<7> me too, needle phobia
<8> its good ;p
<8> in a way
<7> i was on 210mg of hydrocodone a day
<7> and i did the calculations
<7> and according to the conversion charts in the pharmacy manuals, 210 hydrocodone equals 112mg of methadone a day
<8> cant compare
<7> so she started me on 120 meth
<8> its like comparing apples to oranges
<8> ;)
<7> you have to be able to compare in pharmacy and in medicine though
<8> started on 120ml's ?
<8> shes fckn nuts
<7> no
<8> has no fckn idea wot shes doing
<7> that was on MY calculations!
<7> hey!
<7> listen
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