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<0> because it was m***ively complex to do so
<1> personally I want touchscreen in the kitchen, right above the counter
<1> so that I don't have to print the blood recipies everytime
<0> but when you can take a watch battery, run it through a capacitor and a voltage regulation chip smaller than your fingernail, and run that into a little computer-in-a-chip..
<0> hah
<0> thats what I like my brain for :\
<0> and thats part of why I'm getting out of computers
<2> youre getting out of computers? :O
<0> yep
<2> well, whatever
<1> rukk: you try remembering 40 step recipes in your head
<0> I haven't decided to what extent yet
<0> Shadowc4t: ugh.. what do you cook that requires 40 steps? :xz
<0> are you talking like, a 3 course meal here? :P
<1> more like 20 course
<2> I love tweaking, building, testing, and playing with\on computers
<0> are you a chef?
<1> I usually cook for the entire week in a day
<0> ahh
<1> saves time
<0> thats pretty cool
<0> I enjoy taking time out of my day to cook
<0> relaxes me.
<1> rukk: now try doing that on top of five exams due next week
<0> :\
<0> you have a point sir
<1> once you get past two portions it really doesn't take that much time
<0> Fidelity_: the whole computer thing is getting way too convoluted
<1> you can make four portions in the time it takes you to make two
<2> meh?
<1> and around 10-20 in less than four hours
<0> its not about ideals anymore. there is no more good hardware, very little GOOD software
<0> Shadowc4t: oh I know
<0> I've cooked for large groups of people before on a regular basis :P
<2> what do you mean by GOOD hardware and software
<1> I think we have Fidelity_ confused to hell
<0> just what I said. quality, well designed, well produced stuff thats efficient.
<0> Shadowc4t: apparently :\
<2> no im not confused
<2> I just want to know his definition of good
<2> heh
<2> ok for example
<1> do you even understand that concept?
<2> why isint my graphics card good hardware? lol
<2> why isint it well designed?
<1> nope, you don't understand it
<2> what makes something well designed?
<3> heh
<1> Fidelity_: if I showed you a diagram of a motherboard layed out in electrical components, would you understand a thing?
<2> somewhat yes
<0> :X
<2> I know a little about electrical components
<1> as in laid out with transistors, resistors, capacitors, gates, etc?
<2> not much though
<2> i could name those things
<2> heh
<2> not much more
<1> Fidelity_: would you understand all the equations written on the side?
<2> nope
<0> to be fair, I wouldn't either.
<1> I would though
<2> equations for such things like wattage and ohms and such?
<2> :x
<0> I have zero electronics theory, I'm just a hack :x
<1> hardware that works means all the equations makes sense
<1> and equal out in one convoluted way or another
<2> hrm
<0> the problem being
<1> that doesn't mean a proper electrician wouldn't hang you by the balls if he/she took a look at your pcb layout
<0> that as these things get faster and more complex, they aren't layed out very well anymore
<1> just because it works doesn't mean it's efficient
<1> make sense even
<0> or effective, or even overly stable.
<2> i seeee
<0> the problem being that hardware, almost entirely, is made through software. through programming.
<2> why isint it as well designed as say 10 years ago?
<0> and all that code is just compiled.
<0> literally.
<2> why did all the equations add up then
<2> not now
<0> and you get a layout.
<1> a P4 Prescott would be an example of something that works, but which is inefficient as hell
<0> because back then, it was soooo much simpler
<2> prescotts ****
<0> alot of stuff was still done by hand
<2> ****ing ez bake ovens
<0> atleast tweaked and fixed by hand
<1> Fidelity_: if I gave you a pcb layer consisting of 100 layers with around 10 million components
<0> and certainly optimized by hand
<1> would you be able to make sense of it?
<2> I see
<2> no i wouldnt.
<1> that's what's in a modern microchip
<2> but dont we have better means of solving those equations now?
<0> its a matter of the programming language taking over the job of a electrical engineer
<0> and not being able to do it anywhere near as well.
<0> no, we really dont. we have ones that occasionaly turn out working products
<0> or somewhat working products
<2> dueh
<2> huh1?
<2> rukk like prescotts :D?
<0> that, along with the commercialization and restriction of the internet, is why I'm just plain becoming uninterested.
<2> it kind of works but not really?
<0> Fidelity_: take a look at oh, say, your motherboard.
<2> lines!!11
<2> chips chips chips
<2> caps!
<0> do you know why I'm still using a k7 and a old board?
<2> hmmm
<1> Fidelity_ you'll never understand
<2> no
<0> because I can't bring myself to buy that unreliable crap.
<0> this **** is bad enough.
<2> its prime 95 stable for 24 minutes!
<1> this is also why I never bother explaining this to anybody
<2> lol jk
<2> no
<2> I understand
<0> Shadowc4t: yeah
<0> I seldom do
<2> theres nothing I can do about it though
<2> haha
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