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<0> probably
<1> RSS
<1> Really Sleapy Syndrome
<0> :)
<0> sounds legit
<1> yar
<0> this conversation has made me tired
<1> *yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn*
<0> think i'm gonna go snooze for a bit
<0> bbl
<1> nite
<2> a-data value is better than kingston value (ddr) ?
<3> (BREAKING NEWS)(AP/REUTERS) - Fecal matter frozen on a stick, and eaten as a popsicle is now known to cure aids. Details Soon.
<4> _ryzn-: you have issues
<3> spamalope, flyback misses you
<3> wheres your twin lately? :)
<4> flyback- is my twin?
<3> :)
<4> we are nothing alike
<4> in the least
<5> how fast is PCI access ? For example, I can get a pci card that offers sata 2, up to 3GB ... I was wondering if PCI is able to handle that
<6> 3GBps is very different to 3Gbps
<6> 3Gbps is only about 300 megabytes per second
<6> and no disk transfers that fast except for maybe the 8 meg cache
<6> PCI 33MHz/32-bit is rougly 100 Megabytes/s effective speed
<5> ahh ok
<5> so .. PCI 133/32-bit ?
<5> would be like 400MB/sec ?
<6> new disks can transfer about 60-80 Megabytes/s so you *do* run into the serious risk of saturating the PCI bus
<6> yes it would, except that 32-bit PCI doesn't go above 66MHz (according to specs, and no normal mobo supports it)
<5> well.. i've got 3 drives with 2 sata connections
<6> normal PCI is limited to 66MHz/64-bits. 100MHz/64-bits and 133MHz/64-bits are possible with the PCI-X standard which is roughly compatible.
<6> home pc mobos never support more than 33/32 PCI
<5> my options are .. to either get a full new computer... or grab like a Promise FastTrak TX2200 2-Port SATA RAID Card .. and hope for the best
<5> what happens when PCI is saturated? just a slowdown ?
<5> or does it like crash and have issues?
<6> i'd advice you to get a new mobo with integrated SATA. no bottle necks that way. but if you have to upgrade RAM, CPU, GPU and everything else then adding a PCI controller might be an ok compromise.
<6> if PCI is saturated everything attached to it start competing for the limited bandwidth
<5> this motherboard supports sata ... i actually have 2 drives connected
<5> i just need a 3rd
<6> it kinda depends on what you use the PCI for. i'd say that for normal use a SATA PCI connector is just fine. but then again a new mobo with 8 SATA connectors is 100 euros :|
<5> is PCI channeled?.. in that if you have 3 PCI slots.. and you saturate one.. are all 3 affected or just 1 ?
<6> PCI is a bus. the bandwidth is shared.
<5> this motherboard is a kv8.. cheap thing that supports 2 sata drives
<6> PCI-Express is a point-to-point/switched serial connection.
<6> PCI is a parallel bus
<6> big difference there
<6> having a m***ive raid array on the PCI and trying to do high-speed video capture on another PCI card is a bad idea
<6> it all depends on the actual usage
<5> well.. **** maybe i need a new computer but i don't wanna spend 500 bucks ya know?
<5> just to have a backup machine heh
<5> how do you know when the powersupply isn't enough?
<5> with the 3 drives in this machine, i'm thinking I should get harddrive coolers for each.. so 3 coolers added on each drive
<5> http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowImage.asp?image=35-166-013-02.JPG,35-166-013-03.JPG,35-166-013-04.JPG&CurImage=35-166-013-02.JPG&Description=Spire%20FlowCooler%20HD05010S1M4%20Hard%20Drive%20Cooler%20-%20Retail
<5> like those
<6> those fans take maybe 30-100 milliwatts each
<6> not a great strain on the PSU
<6> the disks take 15 Watts or so when in full seek (unless you have those 10krpm SATA raptors which probably take more)
<5> this PSU is 400W
<6> no problem
<6> slap in 10 drives and a 6600GT and it should still be enough
<5> what is the latest socket ?
<5> i don't get all the socket numbering
<5> they jump around
<5> Socket 754, 932, 123, 231, 323232
<6> Socket 939 for AMD, Socket 775 for intel
<5> is AMD better now ? i heard they took the lead
<6> AMD is better in the price/speed ratio
<7> anyone want to recommend a scanner flatbed for about 100-200$?
<6> but Intel isn't far behind. the mainstream CPUs are all within 20% of eachother in terms of raw performance.
<7> intel has cheaper cpus right now
<7> so for 135$ you can get dual core 2.6ghz that ocs to 3.6 np
<5> i want 2 cheap machines that support sata 2.. just looking at which i'm gonna build
<6> +3500, +3800, +4000. It really doesn't matter what you buy unless you're really picky about performance.
<7> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819116001
<6> well yeah. it's good if you overclock it but it's very low-end if not.
<6> AMD 2.0 GHz dualcore is about 300$
<6> Rating +3800
<7> yea 300$
<7> is over double the price
<7> so he could build his 2 cheap machines for the price of one amd
<7> heh
<6> overclocking is out of fashion
<7> who cares what you think
<6> :) but seriously. how does one overclock Intel platforms these days?
<6> FSB? what about RAM dividers?
<6> yanking up the 533 FSB to 800 should be easy?
<5> are new motherboards .. compatible with old cards ? I've got a TV Tuner card .. Hauppage... wondering if I need to worry about it
<6> PCI is PCI. It should work.
<5> PCI-E tho is just PCI on speed
<5> eh?
<5> it's not .. another connection tytpe
<5> type
<5> they always **** you with new connectors
<6> no it's not
<5> kk
<5> thx man
<6> PCIe is completely incompatible
<6> PCI-X is different than PCIe
<6> confusing, eh?
<5> yeah
<6> Wow, Pentium D 805 is 140 euros in Finland. Niiiice.
<5> pentium d's nice ?
<7> the price is awesome
<7> the cpu is decent
<7> you mean agp lakez?
<6> people have been getting 3700/700
<7> they have pcie / agp boards
<7> ***rock makes them
<6> on the 805
<7> 3.7 ghz?
<7> thats dope
<7> if anyone asks me to build them a cheap box ima use that cpu
<7> i love cheap boxes
<6> yeah but that cpu doesn't cut it against an X2 +3800 if you only get it overclocked to 3300.
<6> not even close
<6> blah
<6> 150$ extra
<6> apples and oranges
<7> of course it doesnt cut it
<7> its half the price
<7> i bet it at least is half as good =P
<6> i was expecting celeron-like overclockability
<7> it is
<7> you can get 1ghz oc
<7> out of the 2.6
<7> thats like celeron
<6> 2.7->3.5 is not amazing
<7> no one said amazing
<6> i will gladly pay the extra $150 to get the real dope
<7> but if you think of it like that you will pay the extra for all the peices and its not a budget pc anymore
<7> hes building 2 @ 500$ each hah
<7> oh wait thats a diff person
<7> sleep sounds good
<8> what is the difference between the different FX-models (55, 57, 60)?
<8> (on the AMD CPU's^^)
<7> they all ****
<7> for price
<7> i think opterons are better bet
<7> difference is prob clock speed and cache
<8> ok, new question, what would you recommend in ways of AMD CPU in terms of performance?
<8> is the Opteron the best bet?
<9> alguem a ja teve problema, pra ativar DMA pro gravador de DVD?????
<4> orly
<10> I have a SATA 150 and an ata/100... SATA is my boot drive would it be better performance wise in winxp to put the pagefile partition on the front of the IDE or the SATA?
<11> anyone know what could cause my HP lazerjet 5 printer to print very faintly on the left hand side of the page about 2 inchs in? i replaced the toner.. still does it
<12> anyone an experienced online trader?
<12> who can help me out with a trade
<12> http://www.chefwill.net/l.txt
<12> can someone tell me if this sounds legit and if i should go thru with it?
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