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<0> so
<1> obviously single threaded apps wouldnt benefit
<0> as a 32 bit processor
<2> heh depends on the 64bit procesor
<0> so a dual core 64 bit processor running a 64 bit program...
<0> should be 4 times faster than a single core 32 bit processor
<1> how are we going to start determining a cpus speed if were going to quit saying ghz?
<0> They hit a vertical ceiling so they are moving horizontally now
<0> MHz was misleading anyway
<1> that's a good statement
<0> a 2GHz Sempron is much slower than a 2MHz AthlonXP
<1> vertical ceiling, that's good
<0> They really need to be making dedicated DSP's
<1> yeah cache was less
<0> like the PPU
<3> yeah L1 and L2 cache matter alot
<0> I just have a credit card
<1> so what are all the contributing factors of performance in cpu... some clock speed (reached vertical ceiling :) ), cache is a factor, fsb, memory speed, what else
<1> in a computer rather
<3> ehhhhhhh lemme think of more
<0> cache can only get you so far
<0> FSB IS memory speed... I think
<0> very similar
<3> nr of transistors !
<0> but FSB can only get so fast
<0> because of the northbridge heat
<0> it gets the same problem as the CPU
<3> yeah FSB is memory speed lane :)
<0> Having other chips in your computer dedicated to specific tasks that free up your CPU helps a lot
<0> like hardware sound
<0> hardware graphics
<1> alright i'll bbiab. i got to eat dinner
<3> ok :)
<3> its way past that here :
<3> its 2:11 am
<0> hardware physics processor
<1> im doing a research paper on all this and im trying to come up with as much info as i can
<3> seperate FPU :)
<3> just use load balancing :PPPP
<3> several pcs connected :)
<0> No, there is actually a thing called a PPU
<0> Physics Processing Unit
<3> is it ?
<0> the PS3 anf Revolution will have it
<3> never heard about it
<0> and there will be a PCI version for PC's
<0> ya
<3> I know about RISC
<0> it does the physics
<3> RISC is quicker
<3> reduced instruction code
<0> No, not risc
<0> I mean, a chip dedicated to things like... karma
<0> as an example
<0> how things move and interact and trajectories
<4> apple turned its back on RISC.
<0> physics
<4> hahaha
<4> take that MACINANIACS
<3> nerp: did they?
<3> IBM were RISC ?
<4> yeah, they're using intel chips now
<3> so RISC is bad now
<4> i know the powerpc back in the day was risc
<3> its old news then :(
<3> ah OK
<0> RISC isn't *bad*
<3> they all said back then RISC was the future!
<4> there were some that brought that up as a technological advantage
<3> yeha
<0> for some reason the G5 chips can't run cool enough to be in a laptop
<3> I see
<0> I don't think it has anything to do with RISC vs CISC
<4> as a youngin growing up, in the 8086/8088 days, folks said CISC would be exhausted by now, if not 10 years ago! :D
<0> it's just plain ole incompetence on the part of Motorola
<4> they said eventually, all PCs woudl HAVE to become cisc
<4> err
<0> heh
<4> risc
<4> haha
<0> RISC is nothing
<4> but fabrication has continued to improve
<3> motorola and ibm made them jointly if I am right ?
<4> i believe so
<0> the idea that you can do a bunch of little things faster than a smaller number of big things
<3> ok
<3> does T.I make cpus ?
<4> not for PCs like AMD or intel
<5> nerp been to Cheaters lately?
<4> but they make processors for a variety of devices
<4> shiznit - is that place still even around?
<4> last trip to providence I didn't see that nasty pink blight amongst the oil tanks. . . Maybe I wasn't looking
<3> T.I: only makes military I think ?
<4> beats me, I don't know much about TI, to be honest.
<0> Texas Instruments makes a lot of calculators and TV's
<4> but if you figure they have small processors in their scientific calculators, it's safe to say they make cpus of some sort. :D
<0> Their calculators do have central processing units
<3> yeah :)
<3> know any other companys that make CPU ?
<0> A lot of companies make chips of some sort
<0> a GPU is just a video card's CPU
<0> My sound card has a SPU
<3> I know yeah
<3> like nvidia makes cpus dedicated to video instructions
<0> My sound card is faster than my CPU and my GPU combined, clock speed wise
<3> dupper: the emu10k1 ?
<0> No
<0> the X-Fi
<3> ok
<3> ah I have got a sblive ;P
<0> 3.2GHz
<3> wow
<0> my CPU is a 2GHz, my GPU is 450MHz
<3> OK
<3> my cpu is 3.0
<1> back
<1> steak was good
<3> and gpu is a 6800gt
<3> whats its mhz ?
<3> hehehe
<0> 400
<3> wb
<3> OK
<0> But that's a ****load faster than a 400MHz 9600pro
<0> they have that whole pipeline thing goin with vidcards
<0> they are all around 500MHz give or take 100MHz
<0> but can have 2-16 pipelines
<3> grrrrr
<3> I hit the wrong buttons :)
<0> I don't know how they all compare
<0> but a 6800GT and a 6800Ultra are almost identical
<0> neither are made anymore, just the GS
<0> 6600 only has one power connector
<0> 7800 only has one power connector
<0> 6800 has 2
<0> it's a bit unwieldly
<3> a GT has one
<3> mine had 1
<0> 6800GT only has 1 power connector?
<0> hmm, ok.
<3> really!
<0> I have an Ultra
<3> ultra has 2
<3> I got aopen card
<0> Ya
<0> Ultra Extreme
<0> 450MHz
<0> 1600x1200x60fps in Counter-Strike Source
<3> aopen aolus 256 MB 6800 GT
<0> And probably better than that, that 60fps is my monitor's limit, not the card
<0> I am also 256MB
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