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<0> sorry g, you usually dont mind my smart *** remarks :\
<1> there have been many new architechures, they all fail, because x86 is the m*** market
<2> Fidelity_: its cool. I usualy dont care about much of anything. just worn out.
<3> FooLKillR yeah. its hard to change. even if it is for the better
<1> PowerPC only became hugely successful because of the m***ive server market and the Apple Niche market
<2> the worst part
<2> is that almost all of the "failed" or small archs
<2> are BETTER than x86
<2> usualy by a long shot
<1> yep
<1> remember DEC Alpha chips?
<0> :)
<3> how would a new architecutre made now have an impact in terms of performance?
<2> thats absolutely impossible to predict
<1> most of the older architechures were almost twice as fast as x86, some more so
<3> just image an architecture made now. thats making a an architecture with like 30 years worth of new technology
<2> and its not necessarily about performance as the simplicity of the arch and how it scales
<1> so probably alot, but then again, all it takes is one tard engineer to throw a wrench into the design
<3> how it scales? scalibility to means means how many simotanious cpus it can run. and the steppings
<1> also performance per clock
<3> how long would it take to develop a real architecture that could replace x86?
<1> most of the big guys could do it in a few years, the reason they don't, is that it isn't going to sell
<2> or, you know, cell.. >_x
<3> have amd, intel, and microsoft come to together and make a new architecture with new software running on that architecture. if they all committed to it, it could be done. as to one of them trying to do something on their own
<1> I'll think Cell is neat when I see one operating
<2> thats a TERRIBLE idea.
<3> why terrible idea?
<1> because we'd pay through the *** for something like that
<3> it would sell if the new microsoft os required the new architecture
<2> read wtf you just said.
<1> no competition
<3> well whats microsofts competition right now?
<3> it owns 95 percent of the market
<0> oh damn, the side panels for my case are shipping tuesday. Teaser pic of the side without the window: http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/8472/casalena22zf.jpg
<1> You can't trust marketting numbers
<2> bed for me. you all depress me. except Jen. I just wanted you to know that.
<3> well whats the competition?
<1> heh, night Rukk
<3> hey I depress you!?
<3> g'night
<1> svx, imagine if Intel and AMD joined up, what do you think would happen to CPU pricing?
<0> I depress you!
<2> with the possible additional exception of FooLKillR.
<3> FooLKillR not join companies
<0> :(
<3> but join for a project!
<3> like how dvd was created
<3> all the big electronic companies came together to decide on a new standard format
<3> the dvd forum its called
<1> I hate to tell you this, but there are two big electronic organizations for DVD
<2> why dont you go and propose this to them then, svx?
<1> same as HD DVD and Blue Ray
<1> They can never cooperate completely, which is wonderful for the consumer
<3> rukk I'm a broke kid that just turned 20 and doing summer uni cl***es
<1> svx, you know that Intel and AMD developed the 286 CPU right?
<4> Do you think the 16mb cache drives are that much faster than 8mb drives? SATA2 interface of course.
<1> Only for burst speeds, sustained doesn't change
<1> and remember that there isn't a SATA drive that can saturate Sata 150 speeds yet
<3> 286 chip?
<3> sorry I don't know what that is :/
<3> don't make fun of me though!
<1> I guess its before your time, heh
<3> everything is about time
<1> it went like this, 8088, 8086, 80186, 80286, 80386, 80486, and 80586 (Aka Pentium)
<1> those are the CPU architechures for the x86 line
<1> up to about 1995, heh
<3> I thought pentium was just a name for the intel cpu's
<3> like how amd how the name opteron
<3> what was before pentium though?
<3> I remember my dad got a pentium 100
<1> it is. They tried to trademark 486, but you can't trademark a number, so they invented the Pentium name for their chips
<3> a 100ghz machine
<3> he thought that was fast
<1> 4.77 Mhz was fast once
<3> and I asked him "do you ever think there will be a 1,000mhz machine?" and my dad started laughing
<4> lol
<1> I remember a show back around 87, where they said we'd have Star Trek TNG Computers in 20 years, if not earlier
<1> I'm still waiting...
<3> what was before the pentium days?TNG computers
<1> they were predicting we'd have TNG level computers in 20 years back in 87
<3> I rememember when I was in 2nd grade the teacher said that by year 2000 the rapture would happen or we would be having flying cars
<1> they were wrong, but you can't blame em for trying
<3> the teacher got fired though for talking about religion
<1> heh, flying cars
<1> that will never happen
<1> People can't drive in two dimensions right now, let alone 3
<3> there was this book that guy wrote a long time ago. he had the most accurate predictions. he predicted the TV and stuff
<3> FooLKillR huver cars would be cool
<1> I'd give up driving and move into a bunker
<3> is there a point to huver cars? is it more efficient in anyway? or it just looks cool
<3> I know there is this train that huvers
<1> that's called a mag lev
<1> completely different tech
<3> mag lev? this is for the train?
<1> yeah
<1> its held in place using magnets, so there is no friction, no wear on the tracks and the trains can go much faster
<3> whats the point of it? reduct friction so it uses less energy?
<1> that too, heh
<3> so would there be a point of huver cars?
<3> or it just looks cool
<3> whats up with those future movies that shows the cars with the doors opening upward. how is the the future? its really impractical
<1> just think of the benefits of that. You can drive right to where you want to go, and if its busy, you could fly higher. No having to drive on a road, just take the shortest route
<3> yeah
<3> drive in a staight line
<3> but thats not huvering. that flying
<1> then think of reality. Imagine the ****ty drives in those cars, flying around at 300+ MPH. Realize that if you are flying into a wind at 20 Knots, you are actually going 20 Knots less than your airspeed shows
<1> also, think of the best part, How do you stop something that isn't on the ground quicky?
<3> just imagine looking at the sky and seeing cars and trucks everywhere. I do not want that to happen. I like the pretty clear sky
<1> Its simple really, just smash it into something, heh
<1> I don't want to see it, because there's enough ****tards on the road to least me a lifetime, let alone dropping out of the sky onto my house
<5> reverse thrusters
<3> well airplains have vertical landing and take off
<1> also, think of those ****box cars some people have. The ones where the brakes are gone, and body's falling apart. Imagine that flying over your house
<4> lol
<3> and image a car crash
<3> then the car lands on someone's house
<3> anyway
<1> yep. Half the stuff people predict will never come to be
<3> my asus board had some sort of surge I dont know what
<3> even though everything was properly grounded
<1> sure, it'd be so amazing to have it and everyone would want one, except the goverment doesn't want you to have it, so you'll never ever get it
<3> I have a 3 year warranty so I'm good. I'm going to return it and they will do an advanced shipment
<1> probably a surge that came from the outlet
<3> but do you think if I asked if I could buy other things from them directly and they ship all together?
<1> or if you have a modem, they like to get hit by surges too
<1> no, you can't
<1> Asus doesn't sell direct
<3> man common. Im sure they have some refurbished stuff
<1> and even if they did, you'd get MSRP pricing, not manufacturers pricing
<3> and they are sending me something anyway. might as well add something and get some money
<1> Even if they did, you'd pay more buying from them, than buying it from a store
<3> do you know of any 8-way motherboards?
<3> I just see 4-way
<3> opteron
<3> I mean 8-way opteron
<1> I know of one, its an I-will, I think its on the market
<1> 4 CPU Dual Core Xeon, heh
<1> do you have any idea of what quad server boards cost?
<3> yeah
<3> but I want to see an 8way
<3> the quad opteron boards need 8-way cpus anyhow
<4> There are no Opterons for 8 socket boards, are there? You max out at quad sockets with dual core processors.
<3> Admiral no you don't
<3> go to amd site
<3> there is 1-way 2-way and 8-way
<3> thats the scalability
<1> 8 way would be dual core quad
<4> up to 8 sockets then?
<1> that's 8 cores
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