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<0> the isp i work for also do consulting...we have about 10 consultants who work with smb
<1> building computer is not much
<0> what type of projects do you run into cnguyen ?
<1> set up new company
<2> hardware is less than 50% of my business, the big part is labor for deploying small networks and offices, and routine user error in the small business world, and through the relationship with them going to fix employees computers and residential where i can
<1> mostly
<2> i rather setup new company than to do anything
<1> biggest one I am working on right now
<1> company 3 different sites
<2> how much do you charge per hour?
<1> I charge alot less than other to compete with them
<2> as do i
<1> that big company I charge them 70
<2> i charge 85 i was told it is to low
<1> 85 is not low
<1> lolz



<2> but i rather get business than scare it away
<0> how many years of experience do you guys have ?
<2> another guy who is less competent is charging his customers 125$ per hour
<1> slurp: it is what do you know
<1> not years of exp
<2> what you have done and experienced is different from what you have read
<1> I main job is sysadmin
<1> my
<1> my partner is doing same thing
<1> and we take on customer
<0> well i plan on consulting once older
<2> mine is to drive around all day and fix misc things, such as database failure, virus removal, server maintence
<1> i hav e7 years
<0> im a college studnet working at an isp doing support
<1> when I was in college
<1> was doing the same thing
<1> lolz
<0> i did basic IT work at a small office for a few years
<1> what's your major?
<0> network technologies
<0> minor in security
<1> is there such major?
<1> didn't know that
<0> yup
<0> its a great program
<0> ever hear of depaul university ?
<1> i concentrate more in building my business
<1> nope neve rheard
<0> its a smaller private university in chicago
<0> have an entire school dedicated to technology
<2> i started gettin into cwna
<1> once business pick up then I'll quit my job and concentrate on that
<2> wireless is deep on that level
<0> how much do you install for a basic wifi install
<2> http://www.cwnp.com/
<1> I have mcp but microsoft certification is useless
<1> twynty: where you located?
<2> s. fla
<3> adobe premiere pro 2.0: http://download.adobe.com/pub/adobe/premiere/win/2.x/PremierePro2_0_Tryout.zip
<3> crack: http://rapidshare.de/files/11446951/Premiere2.0_TRIAL_crk.rar.html
<4> This aint a warez room.
<3> consider it a freebie
<5> wow thank you
<5> wooohoooo
<6> this is efnet. anyone hardly cares about warez or not
<7> LoL
<8> Is it worth paying $35 extra for the cooler you get with an AMD 64 3200+ PIB, instead of buying one seperately? (not gonna OC, but it shouldn't be too noisy though)
<9> paying an extra 35$ for a boxed processor usually means you're getting ripped off... price difference shouldnt be more than 2-5$
<9> a badly ventilated case with a stock cooler makes the cooler fairly noisy tho.. it'll run at close to max rpm most of the time
<10> boxed cpus have a longer warranty overhere
<10> tray = 6 months
<10> boxed= 3 years
<8> Okay, thanks. I believe we have minimum 2 years warranty on either, so that doesn't mater really. Could you please recommend one to me? I've only bought PIB :-s
<8> And gladly from this list: http://tinyurl.com/zrqsh
<8> (budget comp :-))
<9> lol en dansker :)
<9> hmm makes things a whole lot easier =)
<9> still gonna reply in english tho... where are you buying the components from ASR- ?? shg.dk midtdata etc ?
<8> hehe, yeah if you've got time to help :)
<9> easier to find a cooler at the exact store =)
<8> I dunno yet, probably gonna order them from various places



<9> generally cheaper to buy all from 1 store tho.. saves tons of postage
<8> Okay, there are many fine coolers, at a cheap price?
<9> but...
<9> http://www.edbpriser.dk/Listprices.asp?ID=135916
<9> artic cooling a64 silencer
<9> cheap effective and quiet
<8> that's cheap!
<8> But hardly gonna buy anything else from either of those stores
<9> well name a store then :) i'll find a suitable cooler
<9> http://www.edbpriser.dk/Listprices.asp?ID=100152 same cooler diff stores lol
<9> expressdelivery.dk one of my personal favorites
<8> Heh, kewl. :) But at that price, it's not that essential though.. Would you care to comment on the other choices: http://test.skalske.dk/comp.html ?
<8> hmm, never heard of that one
<8> and diff price :s
<9> lemme guess. htpc ?
<8> Sorry, ht?
<8> But, I never game
<9> windows media center :)
<8> and hardly ever do any graphical stuff
<8> no no no :D
<9> just plain desktopping ?
<8> Yeah, just need power for normal computation
<8> and for running vista
<9> well nforce 430 (geforce 6150) IS supposedly vista ready... but have a 430 mobo myself.. its POO :p
<9> the gfx part btw
<8> That's the FID?! I was advised to grab that one, instead of IL
<8> Probably gonna do that then
<9> i have the asus a8n-vm-csm
<9> btw there's NO tv out port on a 430 mobo
<8> But Asus is just so expensive :/
<9> if you plan on hooking it up to a tv at some point
<8> I've left my TV at my parents ;)
<9> :p
<8> And have TV-out in this one, if I really needed it... Would have preferred one with 2xDVI btw, but those seems to be much more expensive
<8> and ok, 17" screens, so not that important I guess
<9> 574kr for a asus a8n-vm-csm at expressdelivery.dk.... 499,- for the "cheaper" version with the 6100
<9> so expensive.. nah
<8> But is it in any way better than MSI K8NGM2-Il and/or MSI K8NGM2-FID?
<9> well personally msi boards have given me too much grief... but in most ways... they're identical
<8> I know Asus is nice though, bought one of those for my sister's comp... but it was also 850,-
<9> however...
<8> Hmm, so the 6100 might be a better choice; cheaper and eqaully good?
<9> i do believe you can use both the dvi and the vga port on the 6150
<9> im not sure tho
<9> think i choose the csm cause it was in stock lol
<8> You mean it might just be one port with a converter?
<9> can you convert a vga to a dvi ? i dunno
<9> dun think so
<8> Yeah you can...but I _need_ two ports :)
<8> Or, sorry, you can at least convert DVI to VGA
<9> aye dunno if it goes the other way around.. doubt it tho
<8> Yeah
<9> anyways gimme store you're buying the mainboard from :)
<9> cant be cheaper to buy the cpu/ram at another store.. the postage would ruin the price difference
<8> well, I have no clue... Gonna buy a disk, tower, cpu & cooler, mobo and gfx
<9> gfx ? :p
<8> lost about that one... was told I could easily settle with a 128MB, for my needs
<9> well why buy a gfx card for a mobo with onboard gfx ? :|
<8> considered http://www.edbpriser.dk/listprices.asp?ID=167441
<9> 6100/6150 dont do dual gfx well
<9> ugh no
<8> Heh, I asked them explicitly about whether or not I needed a gfx, if I went for one of those MSI boards... and they sid yes?!
<9> turbo cache = the devil :p
<9> lol
<8> Would it be completely redundant?
<9> unless you "ABSOLUTELY" need 2x dvi.. then you might as well go for a gfx card with dual dvi and go for a non onboard gfx mobo (6100/6150 is hard to disable)
<8> I absolutely don't need 2xDVI :)
<8> But - you are talking about the Asus then?
<11> can sumone tell me the best fast lareg cache sata hard drive to get please ??
<8> I was fairly sure I'd opt for the MSI K8NGM2-FID though... it also has Gbit, onboard LAN and audio. But I'll just check that one you mentioned
<11> large
<11> i want fast data transfer
<11> like 300
<11> speed


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