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<0> really
<1> thing is
<2> you should have let him stay
<1> he's here ALL THE TIME
<2> hes entertaining
<0> 14gb is a bit odd
<1> asking ****
<2> lol
<3> 14 gigs of ram, that's not impossible is it??
<0> 16 is more believable
<2> I think its possible
<2> on a server board
<2> but wtf
<3> 16 is 2gb x 8 right...
<2> he doesnt have a server board
<1> it isnt on a home/gamer mobo
<0> can windows work with higher than 4gb?
<3> neoimp, not 32bit
<1> no
<2> 64bit yea
<3> and not more than 2gb a process
<2> maybe he made a typo
<2> ..
<2> I hope
<1> he's a moron
<1> either way
<3> prolly meant 1gb
<3> he is a moron
<2> lol
<2> why didnt he just stick with xbox
<2> like most noobs
<1> im not sure he wasnt trolling
<3> hah
<1> but ive never seen someone put that kind of efort in
<3> I have 2 gigs of ram...
<1> for months he has been doing that
<2> I think hes just a bit slow
<2> really
<2> really slow
<4> hey does anybody here use the Samsunge 730BF LCD monitor?
<4> Samsung*
<5> i don't talk to the mafia
<5> >:
<5> :P
<2> my mom told me not to talk to strangers
<4> heh, ok :P
<6> i have a 930b
<6> staz
<5> my mom told me not to talk to the mafia
<4> Its a good monitor Jingles?
<6> yes, great
<1> hrm what to eat
<6> not for gaming, but then, no lcd is
<4> nah Im not a gamer
<4> I want videos to look real nice though
<6> yeah i do a lot of video, never have a problem
<3> Jingles, you know not what you speak of
<3> lcds work great for gaming
<6> lcd's are **** for gaming.
<3> not they're not
<3> crts are **** period
<4> Do you think DVI input is important?
<3> they go out of adjustment after like 6 months if they're even adjusted right to start with
<3> Staz, yes
<3> digital signal is less prone to interference
<4> ok thanks :)
<3> I'm a fan of dells
<3> 1702fp, old school...still kicks ***
<3> and the new ones are even cooler
<7> !commands
<2> man
<3> woman
<2> whoever says lcds **** for gaming
<2> is just wrong
<3> yeah
<2> my dell 2405fpw hardly ghosts at all
<3> and mine is a 16ms
<2> and it sure as hell doesnt effect my performance
<6> more like some of you are ****ing blind.
<2> no
<3> Jingles, you're stupid
<2> i do notice a bit of ghosting
<2> true
<6> you either see ghosting or you dont. some ppl are simply more prone to seeing it
<3> have you used an lcd extensively?
<2> but it doesnt make this monitor bad for gaming
<2> i still own as much as i did on a crt
<6> b***goon: arent yout he same moron who argued with me about ram yesterday
<2> arent you the same moron that said 1t vs 2t doesnt matter?
<6> and it doesnt
<6> as i proved
<6> with multiple sources
<8> it really makes a minor difference in everything except sisoft sandra
<3> Jingles, I was arguing that timings do matter...because I overclock
<8> we're talking 2-5 fps difference in games and maybe 2 or 3 % in performance
<3> with lower stock timings you can overclock the ram higher
<8> sandra's memory benchmark looks like its an incredible difference
<8> but in real world benchmarks and game benchmarks it's basically hard to percieve
<2> 5 fps makes a difference
<2> 45-50
<2> 55 to 60
<2> you can definitely tell
<8> well when you have 160 usually, 155 ain't so bad. :)
<6> you're talking about lcds being as good as crts in gaming. do you realize how long it takes an electron to travel from the electron gun to the what, 1 foot to the screen of a crt? hundredths of a second? thousandths?
<2> true
<2> but i like to push the max preformance out of my rig
<2> whatever the circumstances
<8> as do I, but in my case, I have 2x512 pc-4000 memory running at 250 2.5-3-3-8 1T
<6> vs 8ms refresh on an lcd, 16ms etc? you're talking about a process thats hundreds of times slower.
<8> 4x512 @ 250 2.5-3-3-8 2T is worth it
<8> to get 2GB
<8> and I'm probably going to do that with my tax return
<2> i have value ram in my old rig running at 295mhz 2.5-2-2-8
<2> you can definitely get more preformance out of thta
<2> that
<6> nerp: indeed. running that now.
<3> Jingles, are you aware your eyes can only perceive 30 screen changes a second tops
<8> i'm not too concerned about oc'ing my memory. I got the pc-4000 stuff so I could just make an easy oc of my opteron
<6> oh god lets not get into an fps arguement.
<8> 250x11
<8> lower HTT to 4x
<8> done
<3> how many times a second can a 16ms screen change
<8> it is fairly accurate to say that the biggest improvements you'll see when overclocking current amd chips is by increasing the cpu speed. Memory does improve things but its to a far lesser degree
<3> I can't think of how to figure it
<6> rofl
<3> 62 times a second right
<3> 1000/16
<6> there ya go
<3> although I realize that's average...
<3> but you're not going to notice
<3> I mean...monitors change 85 or 100 times a second
<3> are we're talking fractions of seconds...
<3> less time than you can really percieve
<6> and a fraction of a second is a huge thing
<6> you notice when peoples speech isnt synced in video
<8> its different for everyone. try it out and see for yourself.
<6> do you not?
<8> not on my lcd
<8> anyway i gotta go.
<6> some people simply see ghosting while others dont
<6> ive had people tell me they couldnt on 20+ms lcds
<6> when its apparent to everyone else
<3> mine's 16ms...
<3> and I'm upgrading to a 4
<6> are there even any TRUE 4ms out there?
<3> ghosting is much more obvious on analog signals too
<3> Jingles, yes, there are 2ms ones
<6> or is it 4 grey to grey
<6> or 2 grey to grey
<6> grey to grey is meaningless
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