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<0> why is there such a loss when expanding jpeg image, i used highest quality jpeg
<1> You've got a ****ty jpeg compressor.
<2> There's one compressed with psp.
<2> My jpeg compressed image looks near spot on to the orignal tiff.
<0> Hoe` can you explain what you did step by step
<0> I'm guessing you did something differently, doubt psp has better jpg compression
<2> In PSP, I have a web tool bar. I click jpeg, and I set the compression to '1'
<2> It has a cute little preview window showing the finished product.
<0> Hoe` do this, open black tiff, save it as jpg. close jpg. open that jpeg, adjust levels
<1> levels?
<0> in histogram
<2> ah.
<1> I've got no idea what I'm suppose to be adjusting in here :P
<0> you see the information on the left side?
<0> left side of the histogram
<1> output max/min, colors/luminance, low/gamma/high, percent signs, red/green/blue, I've got no idea.
<0> can you take a screenshot of it
<0> I didn't work in photoshop for years
<0> err, in paintshoppro
<0> DCC Get of jpeg_psp.jpg from Hoe``
<0> incomplete (unable to connect)
<0> try http://www.imageshack.us/
<1> http://www.red-stars.net/others/histogram.jpg http://www.red-stars.net/others/jpeg_psp.jpg
<0> they don't load
<0> http://www.bobatkins.com/photography/digital/psp/histogram.gif
<0> is that it?
<2> They load for me.
<0> must be from cashe
<0> is that the histogram?
<2> But, ya, that's it.
<0> ok, see 3 triangles bellow it
<0> black gray white
<2> 'ya
<3> anyone know about usin the sb live aud_ext for frontside audio?
<0> hold white one and drag it to left all the way near the start of the information
<4> hey guys =)
<0> as close as possible, but don't clip it
<0> you saved it as jpeg first, reopened?
<1> ah, there's thouse damn blocks.
<0> yeah
<0> when doing it to tiff you won't get them
<1> Do this. Save a low color information tiff, and save the same image as a low compression jpeg, then xor the two to find the differnces.
<0> 8bit tiff?
<0> per channel
<0> (it already is)
<0> I did check the differences, they are noticable, which is weird since maximum quality jpeg is suppose to be near lossless. that's what I've heard anyway
<1> ***uming I'm not off base here in my understanding, thouse 2 images are rather differnt.
<1> I just xor'ed the two images against each other, then changed the histogram stuff, and found a good deal of collisions.
<1> I suppose one of the problems could be the darkness of the image causing jpeg to eat a large amount of information which seems worthless to the compressor.
<0> basically saving to jpeg losses a lot of information, maybe because we aren't that sensitive to black tones
<0> lol yeah
<5> hi. anyone got a netgear rangemax wpn824?
<0> so if you heavily underexposed and were shooting jpeg, chances are your image is ruined
<2> It's amazing how you can stick all of the color information to one side of the spectrum, but that still be enough to get a very decent image.
<0> yes, there are only like 32 black levels there
<2> http://www.svc.com/pctoysfloppy.html a decent sale on **** cables (round ide/floppy cables for 29cents to 79cents)
<0> that's cheap
<2> What's a good bang for your buck video card in the 180~220 range?
<6> 7800gs?
<6> what we talkin agp pcie?
<2> pci-e.
<2> I'd perfer not a gs, I'd rather get a decent last gen card over a crippled modern gen card.
<6> well i only said gs cuz its one the fastist agp cards
<2> ahh.
<6> 7800gt is 270
<6> X850XT 256MB GDDR3
<6> is 197 after rebate
<2> Ya, I looked at an x850XT, but it's not doing too well: http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/12/02/vga_charts_viii/page16.html
<6> not even on that chart
<2> It got a 31.
<6> shows a 6600gt beating it
<6> haha
<6> thats the pe even more expensive version
<6> haha
<2> haha.
<6> well looks like if you like f.e.a.r then 7800gt is good buy
<2> I'm actually pricing out a box for some one else.
<6> hard to get around paying alot for psu/ gfx card and get somthing "good"
<6> i mean paying a little hehe
<6> what cpu you gonna get?
<6> or they.;.
<2> Well, I'm tossing them a few options for each component. Probly going to show them a Sempron, a 3200+, and maby a 3400+
<7> o noes
<7> it's nidO
<8> uh-oh
<2> eVGA an acceptable brand?
<8> no
<7> haw
<9> i dont think evga is a brand :\
<9> buuuuut what do i know
<2> Who's currently stuffing some good 939 boards?
<9> me
<9> :)
<2> i don't think Chez is a brand :\
<9> i never said Chez was a brand
<9> unlike you saying eVGA is one
<9> >>_>
<9> :P
<6> hoe get a epox board if your on budget then you wont have to get a sempron
<2> I actually found some decent ASUS ones for 70~80$
<6> asrock has a cheap 939 but some have good results some disastors
<2> Blah. I'm trying to hit the 550$ mark, and with out the case/psu/shipping, it's at 700$. Bloody 'I want to play video games made after 1998' crap.
<10> epox is rad
<11> does the main hd and removable storage have to be the same file system?
<11> ie FAT, FAT32, NTSF
<2> monocs: No. Infact, floppies run off of FAT12 and data CDs run off of ISO9660.
<12> he be gone
<13> zed's dead, baby. zed's dead.
<7> sigh
<12> good, i hated zed anyway
<7> i asked a group of users to give me an average of the amount of prints they do per day
<7> this is one reply
<7> I would guess I print a minimum of 50 pages
<7> is that an average?
<7> then someone else said 50-100 so i replied with "75?"
<13> idiots
<7> yes
<13> http://www.zedzdead.net/
<13> lol
<13> some fool actually made a site after that
<6> what kinda group?
<6> i never print anything but pictures
<7> Jen: look at the about page
<7> I'm not a total geek, as the photo testifies (the eyepatch is a fake).
<7> then you see the pic
<7> what a geek
<7> haaha
<2> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813138021 Feelings? Reactions? Outrage?
<7> Jen: ppl make websites from quotes lots... http://www.chokeabitch.com/
<10> A) That board is Biostar B) That board is VIA chipset
<10> C) That board is teh sux
<2> hand: Two things that are sub optimal, but 60$ :P
<2> And, hey, VIA isn't all bad :P
<10> VIA is OK
<10> just OK
<10> but it's BIOSTAR
<2> Use **** caps or some thing?
<2> I knew a few BIOSTAR boards that have been running for a bit.
<11> anyone here have any more suggestions for my problem, xp pro sp2 not showing m*** storage devices in my computer
<11> tis driving me nuts and im getting behind on work because of it
<12> hmmm
<12> so you plug it in USB and it doesn't work?
<11> it does work
<11> just doesnt show in my computer
<11> i can access it via disk managment
<12> maybe theres a permission setting
<12> are you administrator?
<11> yes
<11> also before i was running home and it worked fine, now that im on pro it doesnt
<2> Ya, I'm having a problem like that, too. Her m*** storage mp3 player works in my box fine, but dosn't in hers. I keep getting some sort of error, and it is viewable in disk manager. Sorry, I havn't ****ed with it much yet so I don't have an anwser for you.
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