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<0> we have umm 300GB drives over here for $200..which is fantastic
<0> (nzd) that is
<1> I have ST3160023AS
<0> I've actually bought two 300gb drives in the last few months
<0> dropped another 30 since then
<2> thermaltake's a good PSU brand, ya?
<3> I use ST3250823AS
<3> Agape: Careful, you may summon nidO.
<0> much better than generic
<4> ywot?
<4> thermaltake psu's ****.
<2> I'm putting a system together for a friend, needs a PSU as part of it. lian li case of great happy joyness.
<2> and just looking for something that'll power it decently.
<4> if he can afford a lian li case he can afford a pcp&c psu
<0> antec or enermax I'd suggest then
<1> i agree with nidO



<2> pcp&c....
<2> that is?
<4> pc power and cooling
<1> PC Power & Cooling
<4> jen not around to cheer you up? :p
<5> it's almost $500 for one of those, which would make it more expensive than the case, plus motherboard....
<3> Yikes. Beer in my trunk began to freeze.
<3> Beer slushy.
<4> haha
<5> not that I'm saying it may not be worth it, but the dude has a $2400 budget limitation.
<1> Dayum
<6> beer goes in your belly, not your trunk
<4> you're looking at the wrong psu's.
<5> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817703003
<4> pcp&c's decent supplies start at about here
<4> which probably translates to $130 in the us
<1> yeah you can get a 450watt for around 120
<4> hahaha
<7> arnt Lian lis those super cases that support like alot of HD's?
<1> yeah
<4> you chose a THOUSAND WATT psu to base your prices on?!
<1> one guy was using one to make his 16hd computer
<3> Is that incase you want to convert your full mains to DC?
<0> haha
<1> 2400$ budget. hell
<5> newegg has two PCP&C PSUs on it, 1kW, and 850W.
<1> whats this computer for again?
<3> I always use generic psus that come with 20~30$ Case4s.
<7> arnt 1000 watts for like juggleing alot of stuff?
<5> friend who wands an ***kickers system, and lian li you can practically feel the cooling goodness radiate just looking at the webpage.
<5> so far it's configged to be a 4800+, and a BFG 7800GTX vidcard.
<1> er
<1> the cheapest psu from pcp&c on newegg is 200$
<1> 210
<1> hmm
<5> 24-pin?
<1> they must have quit making one
<5> with SLI support?
<1> 20pin
<1> yeah sli is supported
<1> anyways
<5> the abit 32x has a 24-pin power connector.
<1> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817103931
<1> theres a pretty good one
<8> dudez, would i be better off with a athlon 64 3700+ single core or a pentium d emt64 dual core @2.8ghz
<8> i mean the system bus 800mhz versus 2000mhz it what grabs my attention, is this what really makes a big difference, the bus speed, as far as what i will notice in performance
<5> AinSoph: honestly, go for athlon dual core. last I checked, intel dual-core was more expensive anyway.
<8> im looking at two different hp's on bestbuys site
<8> well the athlon dual core i am trying to get is too expensive
<5> okay, that's your starter mistake, HP is basically compaq.
<8> and not in stock and i am bound by certain restrictions on getting it
<8> and, what of it
<8> should i not get a hp
<1> AinSoph: the Pd @ 2.8 would probably be better, but still it ****s compared to the cheapest athlon x2.
<1> i dunno
<5> no, do not get HP, do not p*** go, do not collect $200.
<8> can i upgrade the single core athlon to a dual core



<1> AinSoph: you can save a wad building yourself
<1> depends on what kind of hardware they use
<8> well, i cant build myself cuz i have to get it this way because someone else is buying and i have to get a oem "your name here" pc
<7> www.ibuypower.com
<8> from best buy, instore instock
<8> this is my limitations
<7> get a emachines
<7> all you need to get if you get the best 1 is a new proc and a graphics card
<1> you have to buy from a local store?
<7> That ****s balls bad :(
<8> my two choices are a single core hp athlon64 or dual core pentium d emt64
<1> hmm
<1> whats the uses of it
<8> yes, i am restricted to my buying cuz im not paying and im taking what i can get, just wanna know what is best
<1> what you going to use it for
<8> watching movies (divx, xvid, .mpg .avi) gaming, programming, running a dual-boot linux system
<8> using it for just about everything
<1> hmm
<8> the pentium has intel graphics though, is this a bad thing for linux
<1> im going to say the athlon
<0> you won't be using onboard graphics with that pc will you?!
<8> Only thing i dont like about this athlon hp system is it has everything but a pci x16 slot
<8> it has pci-e slots
<1> its possible you can update that athlon to an X2 ?
<1> er
<1> it may be possible .
<1> hmm
<1> the intel has pcie16?
<7> BUCHAREST -- Romanian second division soccer club UT Arad sold a player in exchange for 15 kilograms of meat, local sport daily Pro Sport reported on Monday.
<1> if the athlon has no pcie16, your stuck with an agp card (current best right now is probably the 7800GS, which is still about the same as a 6800 ultra) but you may could buy a new motherboard/psu eventually to update it all. The socket 939 will probably become outdated eventually after the release of the m2 940 socket so parts could possibly get high or they could be low.. the Intel, you most definately could update that machine to any..
<1> of the pentium ds with a different hsf
<1> you could also update that athlon machine to a fx-57
<9> whois cibo
<1> /whois cibo
<10> me
<10> why?
<0> because you're ***y :)
<9> :o ?
<10> Logan5?
<9> i thought your name was familiar-sorry bro
<10> i forgive you
<9> There there
<9> So how did the channel know who i was whois'ing
<10> [23:28:20] <9> whois cibo
<9> Pshhh
<9> I 'whois'd' mixx
<10> i dont like that
<0> kind of like invading you without you knowing
<10> mm
<10> joining the channel and askin bout me n ****
<10> need to put some caps n hes ***
<8> i'll just get the pentium since it has pci-e x16
<8> and it is updateable to faster processors
<8> i'll just make sure i get a good heatsink and fan if it doesnt have one, do oem computers like hp have heatsinks and fans on the processor
<8> ????
<1> thats like mandatory
<1> the athlon is updateable to faster cpus as well, possibly the x2, but i dont blame you for going the intel route because it has the pcie16 already
<8> ok, so what about the intel graphics where it says 256MB shared, how much is direct
<1> the intel graphics is pathetic. you will not be able to game on that
<8> im not gonna be able to afford a pci-e x16 graphics card to add on, i can just get what i am getting cuz i am not paying for it
<1> but it will run anything else pretty normally. i dont know about the linux drivers, they may have them
<8> not even neverwinter nights?
<1> dunno, maybe on low settings
<8> what about on-board ati graphics with 256MB shared, is this good for gaming
<1> i have a 6800 pcie16 im selling if you need one ill take 150 shipped if you have any money at all
<1> any on-board solution isnt good for gaming
<8> no money at all, someone is just buying me a computer
<0> yes, you'll be able to run neverwinter nights (not at high resolution)..and linux actually does really well with onboard intel graphics
<0> annoyingly well actually
<8> you serious?
<8> so you dont think I am gonna have a problem with drivers being missing from the kernel for anything onboard
<8> processor, onboard graphics,etc..chipset


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