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<0> >=) im buyin a Pc-75 Lian li
<0> MOnster
<1> but this stuff needs to last
<2> ur comp ****s for just what hes doing
<3> msg: So does the Ultra Wizard ATX case, which used to house my monster of a gaming machine
<1> hopefully atleat 5 years
<0> yo rukk
<0> i found a FW900 it says
<0> GREAT CONDITION
<0> INDIVIDUALLY BOXED
<0> wat does that mean
<0> refurbed in a box or
<4> probably that its in great condition
<1> CJDeak, I have that case
<0> is it actually new its a Hp/compaq
<4> I dont know. they give no details



<4> I DO NOT READ MINDS
<4> AHHHHH$*(#)
<1> CJDeak, the thing I hate about it is the three bays
<0> 50 avaiable
<1> it is such a pain in the *** to put it on
<0> o ****
<0> >=) Jackpot
<0> fw900 of the list
<0> ~_^
<3> good point, msg
<0> 400 dollars
<0> nice
<4> rofl
<0> sick yea
<1> though with one cd drive that shouldn't be a problem
<2> but 3 bays is not going to hurt your uncle's webbrowsing and email habits.
<0> ultimate guru tech for pennys
<5> are dell lcds 6 or 8bits?
<0> ~+^
<0> depends
<3> But I had a ****ing x1900xtx, Athlon64 X2 4400+, 1KW Power supply, 2 DVD burners and 3 hard drives in there, along with an ATX mobo
<0> they can be both
<1> I always want the more hard drive space for about 40 buck more
<1> I want to go with a dual core proccesser for vista (might not be able to do fancy effects and all)
<4> I AM IRON MAN
<3> My ****ign Athlon64 3000+ handles vista
<1> CJDeak, but this needs to last
<0> 16 centimmetters 1 inch yea
<2> msg43 is a dumb ****
<2> heh
<4> most people in here are.
<4> nothing new.
<0> yea so 19.8 8 more centimeters makes it 20 inches jah
<2> rukk : yeah
<3> msg: taht machine won't be out dated for 12 years, it'll be a little old in 8, but it'll still run ****ing software and hardware in 12
<1> Richter, how so?
<0> 8 years are u nuts
<0> that machine is so outdated
<0> in 8 years
<3> because my dad's machine was ****ing top of the god damned line when it came out, in 1994, and he just replaced it a month ago
<1> CJDeak, good that exaclty what I need
<0> i havent checked all the specs
<0> but any machine 8 years from now
<1> I want it to run for a god dam time
<0> will be m***ivly outdated
<4> well
<3> Msg: That machine won't be up to date, but it will WORK
<0> it wont happen like that mgs
<4> are you still using a p75?
<0> itll be like running a penitum 1
<0> right now
<4> or a p100, is more fair
<1> 5-7 yrs from now it won't be able to do games but it will do email, word processing ,etc....
<3> I'm not saying it's going to be up to date
<0> man why are u guys listenin to this bull****
<3> But it will do email, word processing and web browsing
<0> u know in 2 years
<0> hes gonna get monye
<0> and upgrade again
<0> stop fooling yourselfs



<4> your all stupid.
<0> his pc will break down
<0> before it gets out dated
<3> I have a Pentium 2 450mhz machine, weith 256MB of SDRAM and an IDE hard drive
<1> whosthat, dude my uncle as some stupid dell from 3 yrs ago
<3> Web pages don't load slower
<1> whosthat, lifetime warrenty
<0> thats 3 years ago
<0> your talkin 8 - 12 years
<0> your pc will be dead before that
<4> thats like
<4> a 486 now
<4> which is sorta useful
<0> if he uses unless it collects dusts
<0> sorta
<4> as a smoothwall router
<0> yea but thats the point itll go like this
<1> I had a box from 1998 that was good up untill about late 2003
<0> if his uncle uses it then dead if he doesnt dont spend so much money
<0> and just get him somethin average for web browsin simplistic ****
<0> in video department he wont be able to play any god damn games good at all
<1> well how long do you guys think the currrent setup will last?
<0> for average person id say maybe 3 years
<0> if he barely uses it maybe more
<2> for email and webbrowising...9 years. for playing games or top of the line games? 5-6 months.
<0> not 5-6 months well wat card
<0> card is **** yea
<0> already outdated
<0> but if he were to get somethin like a
<1> yeah he doesn't do games though
<1> he wants a chess game
<0> so exactly save your money
<2> and he doesn't need x2 either.
<0> exactly
<0> x2 wont help him if u want to be future proof though
<0> it can give him a boost but
<1> Richter, yeah but in 3 years aren't most programs gonna be taking advantage of dual core?
<0> man wateva i got monitors to ****in buy
<2> no, msg
<0> in3 years
<0> were gonna have 8 cores
<0> programs will get more intense
<3> msg: in 3-4 years they'll take advantage of it, but you can still use one core
<0> dont think 2 cores will save u
<0> quad cores are coming out in 9 months
<1> CJDeak, well what if I was to go with a 3400 X2?
<0> octo cores in 2008
<2> its all just smp, who cares. single threaded applications are still king and will be for a long time.
<0> i myself am buildin m***ive system in 2-3months waitin on conroes and g80 quad sli
<4> not really
<3> They don't make a 3400xt, the 3800 is the lowest dual core
<2> x2 for some 19 year old dork's chess playing uncle is...ludicrous.
<3> Don't get a ****ing dual core
<3> Listen to us
<0> hey ricther i wouldnt say that
<0> dual core is defintly the future
<0> smp single cores
<0> is defintaly headin that way
<0> and if u seen quake 4
<0> who got patched to take advantage of it they give marginal gains
<2> **** quake4. quake2 is the best game ID ever produced.
<0> im not talkin about the game
<0> **** quake 4 yea
<0> im talkin about the dual core potentinal
<1> CJDeak, so would a single core last just as long?
<0> its m***ive
<3> Quake 4 = Quake 2 game, quake 3 multipalyer, new paint job
<0> and its definatly gonna be the future so if u say its not it wil and single coded ones wil die out
<3> msg: Yes, because email will never be multithreaded, I hope
<0> like anythin else that gets into progress's way
<3> Now if you want to do more than that, get a dual core in 2-3 yaers
<0> email aint nothing email your good to go
<0> get him a pda
<1> but how about opertating system speed?


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