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<0> if you have less than service pack 2.. ht, dualcore, dual cpu will not function properly
<1> vista!
<0> pcix isnt so bad
<2> and get 2 gig of ram total while yer at it.
<2> 2 gig is so ***y, even just in general usage
<3> EneergE: If you actually need PCI-X :P I'd rather get PCI-E/PCI.
<0> yeah
<4> what application use 2gigs of ram
<1> you need a powerful pc to run the full potentials of vista stably
<3> Video, image, music, development, etc etc, all **** ram.
<0> diditric: all of them can access it
<1> photoshop
<0> diditric: 2gb of ram cuts game load times in half almost from 1gb of ram
<2> its not that youll nec. be using one app that will use 2 gig, but you do enough in windows at once and you will immediately see a difference in 1 and 2 gig
<0> i went from 1gb to 2gb and fear loaded nearly twice as fast
<4> my yahoo messenger seem to **** most of the ram, and it's only 20 megs
<3> Even if it's not consumed by a program, windows cache manager will use it.
<1> i say get 8GB of ram!
<0> heh
<4> 32bit is limited to 4 gigs
<1> but ath won't be enough in 2 years
<0> diditric: and xp is limited to 2 gigs
<1> yeah 64 bit now
<4> why is xp limited to 2 gigs, xp = 32bit
<0> at least 32 bit version
<3> I believe xp does some thing along the lines of 2gb for kmode and 2gb for usermode, and that can be changed a bit.
<3> That's as far as I recall from a book a read a while ago.
<1> hdds suC
<4> what is the gig limit for xp 64bit
<3> It's pow(2, 64) = 16,777,216TB
<4> i wish HDD doesn't make noise: then i would have complete silent PC
<3> Seagates are rather silent disks.
<4> hoe not silent enough
<1> hdd advance so slow compared to the rest
<0> my seagates good
<0> but i keep a fan in my room on all the time so
<4> my CPU fan doesn't run when it's below 30 c
<4> right now, my cpu fan is not running
<0> xp 64 bit suppors 124gigs of memory
<1> 2GB of ram on a p3?
<4> only HDD is making a noise right now
<4> eneerge i see; thanks
<0> diditric: what model you got
<0> ?
<4> EneergE seagate and samsugn
<3> EneergE: If I recall properly, 2003 Datacenter edition gets rather far up there.
<1> i can;t wait for static hdds
<4> hoe how can datacenter go farther than 4 gig if it's only 32bit
<3> Well, there are ram paging hacks, but I believe it was a 64bit version.
<4> do you think flash will replace HDD?
<3> Expanded physical memory space. On 32-bit Intel platforms, Windows Server 2003 R2, Datacenter Edition, supports Physical Address Extension (PAE), which extends system memory capability to 64 GB of physical RAM.
<1> i'm gonna upgrade my socket 478 cpu, any advice or things i should look out for or do?
<3> I doubt it will be flash. But it's possible we'll see solid statge replacements at some point.
<1> omg
<4> is solid state HDD not same as flash?
<5> anyone around
<5> ?
<5> whats a good make of case
<0> haha
<5> somethin BIg and cool
<0> looksl ike it
<4> i wonder what kind of HDD yahoo/msn server use
<5> cool as in cold
<5> need a new case for 6 drives+ asa[
<5> asap
<0> get one of those refrigerated cases
<0> there about 500$ or something
<5> link ?
<1> my parents use a p3 and it is perfect for their needs
<0> hehe
<0> i dont have a link
<2> free2b: we already told ya, X2
<4> isn't it cheaper to just get dualCPU
<4> instead of getting dualcore
<2> god get off the dual cpu thing dude
<2> if i had a stupid paddle id hit you
<0> diditric: no
<4> jingles it's same thing for better price
<2> no, its not
<0> diditric: a 3800+ is two 3200+ cpus.
<2> its more expensive
<0> the 3200+ is around 180$ or something
<0> two would be 360
<0> the 3800 is 242
<4> okay; my bad
<2> if you got a x2 3800 now, you would still be able to get an FX60 in a year and a half
<2> or whatever
<4> fx60? what is that/
<0> omg
<0> its the best chip available
<2> your board would have a decent lifespan
<1> thermal paste necessity?
<0> is the dual core fx-57 basically
<3> nwo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811182545 I have that and keep 7 drives in it.
<5> http://canadacomputers.com/index.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=007101&cid=CS.934
<5> that any good ?
<5> my link
<4> why did they make dualcore CPU: isn't it easier to just use dualcpu
<5> hoe : 18.99?
<5> wtf
<3> nwo: For shipping? It weighs a bit :P
<5> Hoe`` : need something just a little bigger
<4> my video security computer system use dual CPU
<4> and it's not a server
<0> diditric: because dualcore is better than single core and a dual, dualcore setup would be better than a dual, singlecore setup
<5> i have 4 x 250 and a 120 for my c: with a radeon x850 and 2 optical drives :xc
<0> now stfu about dual cpus
<5> http://canadacomputers.com/index.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=007101&cid=CS.934
<5> that any good ?
<4> eneerge okay but you never gave me a reason why it's better
<3> diditric: dual core has a lot of potential benefits. It simplifies the north bridge, it has future potential such as shared l2 cache, and other things.
<0> diditric: the performance should be the same... but price/performance ratio is better on the dual core chips
<4> eneerge i see
<4> why not just make 4ghz chip instead of dualcore 2ghz
<0> get out
<3> You need to read more. We can't teach you every thing from the ground up.
<6> why not just make a dualcore 4ghz chip
<6> ;\
<0> diditric: because dual cores can split the threads and be more efficient and seem faster
<4> arod because dualcore requires software to be changed
<0> diditric: for the better
<6> i was being sarcastic
<3> A lot more factors into performance then the chips frequency. 4ghz does not mean 2 fold over 2ghz, even on the same core. There is a large benefit from being able to execete multiple threads.
<0> diditric: ghz doesnt necessarily mean anything anymore
<0> amds 2.4ghz cpus outperform intels 3.4ghz cpus
<0> all that is is how much power its using
<4> eneerge true but intel 3.6ghz outperforms 3.4
<0> eh
<4> eneerge true but intel 3.6ghz outperforms intel 3.4ghz
<0> and the fx-60 2.6ghz will eat that thing alive
<3> Yes, but that does not mean the performance increase ratio is the same as the frequency increase ratio.
<0> dude quit being a ****head
<0> i think your just trying to ask stupid question
<0> s
<4> eneerge i am not ; sorry
<0> diditric: ok
<4> is it harder to make multithreaded software
<0> its harder right now because its something new, imo
<0> well fairly
<3> He needs to start from the bottom up. You're making ***umptions based around a limited set of knowledge. If you have an honest interest in hardware, that's the first step, and the second step is to invest your college fund into books.
<0> games and stuff its new for them
<4> i don't understand why microsoft disabled the multithreaded capableness on HOME edition
<1> i thought GHz don't matter
<1> how come you people are comparing GHz
<3> Multi-threading has been around since the dawn of the context switch :P
<3> I'd want dual core to run multiple single threaded processes.
<7> didtric - umm. you need to check facts.
<0> yeah, game makers are just not utilizing it though
<4> free2b it matters within same brand/model
<0> just now i mean
<1> it shouldn't matter at all, all that should matter is the performance
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