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<1> yeah, media tests
<2> and game test
<1> i dont give a **** if Conroe has 10 percent less in media encoding
<3> will the geforce 7900 play games that other cards would freeze or studder on?
<1> it gives 20% or greater in games
<2> conroe beat the amd in every single test
<0> so what amount of latency did the intel get at 70% cpu usage with 1gb of data throughput on the I/O bus?
<2> and the conroe chip wasent event the best chip
<2> it was the 3rd highest chip they are releasing
<2> and it blew the doors off amd's best chip
<1> SvX: The 7900GTX is pretty much the best gfx card
<2> b***goon read the benchmarks
<2> intel had the latency all ****ed up actually
<2> and the test still made conroe faster
<1> toodlez: What is your opinion on this: Buy that ASUS (http://www.allstarshop.com/shop/product.asp?dept%5Fid=457&pid=13585&sid=PJSP9H2FXKXX8GNS0SX5WGU1QCKFCRA6) Along with a 930 cpu and a 7900GTX
<1> that is what i am doing
<2> duo do what u want its your money and your computer:)
<1> do you think that is a good idea i mean?
<2> b*** http://www.anandtech.com/tradeshows/showdoc.aspx?i=2716 read up and get educated
<2> you can get off amd's nuts
<3> DuoMaxwel really? what about that quadro
<3> anyway I just want to know whats the difference for any regular gamer
<0> oh toodlez a conroe compared to a TWO YEAR OLD AMD ARCHITECTURE
<3> will some cards breakup my computer monitor and jitter and crap
<0> see toodlez you ARE an idiot
<2> b***
<2> thats amd's best chip and board AT THE MOMENT
<0> yeah?
<2> what else is better amd has out?
<0> and where's the conroe being sold?
<2> thats not even the best conroe chip yet
<0> that's not the best amd chip either
<2> what is?
<0> that's the best amd chip from 6 months ago
<0> well its not out yet numbnuts!
<0> its the fx-60 a K8 socket 939
<2> hjaha
<2> b***
<2> and the best conroe chip
<2> isint out yet either
<0> exactly!
<2> nor has it been benchmarked
<3> b***goon just put toodlez on ignore
<2> b***goon you are wrong and amd just isint on top anymore get over it
<0> so this is a current gen intel chip compared to a last gen amd chip
<2> b***
<2> how much is that amd chip
<2> 900bux
<0> lets compare the athlon xp 2100+ to an intel 486dx66 and see which is better?!
<2> that conroe chip is gonna be 450bux
<2> and its better
<2> case closed
<2> u lose
<0> omg, you mean new architectures that have been in development for years are better than AGE OLD ARCITECTURES?
<0> you're a ****ing genius
<2> am2
<2> just came out
<2> and they said it will gain no more then 2-3%
<2> thats it
<0> THAT BENCHMARK WASN'T COMPARING IT TO AN AM2
<0> AND THERE ARE NO BENCHMARKS OF AM2
<0> SO YOU DON'T KNOW **** ABOUT IT
<2> 2-3% isint gonna catchup to a 20-25% difference
<0> there is NOTHING to prove a 2-3%
<2> b*** u realize the only difference of am2 is the ddr2 correct?
<0> NOT true
<0> htt 3.0
<2> u dont have to prove its true
<0> new cores
<2> ok
<2> well u keep buying amd
<2> ill buy a conroe setup
<2> have fun with yer overpriced slower amd in 6monyhs
<2> months*
<0> his is despite having over 30% greater memory bandwidth by switching to DDR2. While future samples and the final product may prove to be faster, significant gains are not expected until later revisions take advantage of the surplus bandwidth.
<0> conroe has been in development longer than am2
<2> hahah
<2> so?
<0> so when the next line of am2s come out it will destroy conroe
<2> sure pal
<2> and by 07 conroe is having 4 cores
<2> with 6megs of cache
<2> so it will blow am2 out again
<0> will it use SOI or an intergrated memory controller?
<0> cause intel figures those out, their 45nm and ddr2 or 3 mean NOTHING
<2> im not sure what its using
<0> do you even know what SOI is?
<2> 45nm i think is 08
<0> and what intel uses instead?
<4> amd is also coming out with a quad core processor in 2007.
<0> well 65 nm gained intel NEXT TO NOTHING becuase they don't use SOI
<2> amds technology hasent changed
<0> just watch when AMD switches to 65nm
<0> which they don't NEED to like intel did
<0> the use of SOI on amd chips will make 65nm have SIGNIFICANT gains over 90nm
<2> b*** your acting like intels old technology makes a difference
<0> unlike intel
<2> 6 years ago
<0> um...
<2> amd had **** computers
<2> now they are good
<2> now intel has good **** coming out
<2> get over it
<0> the use of CMOS on intels chips cripples them
<0> heavily
<4> who the crap cares? Intel will come out with something better than AMD..then AMD will come out with something better than Intel..Then Intel will come out with something better than AMD
<2> k im done talking to u because your ****in so retarded u would rather stick on amd's nuts when there product now is inferior listen the day amd comes back and is better then intel is the day ill go to amd
<4> get over this idology that one company will always be better than the other.
<0> if you want to actually discuss processor design learn something useful about processors
<2> snoops exactly
<2> i dont care who makes the better stuff ill buy it
<2> b*** is retarded and doesnt wanna understand the facts
<2> and realize amd is inferior atleast for the next year or so
<0> eer ok...
<0> intel has more heat issues still
<2> omg
<5> um actually toodlez thats wrong
<2> haha
<5> b***goon is correct
<0> due to the use of the 1960s techonology called cmos they still use
<2> fidelity about what
<0> OH MY GOD Fidelity_ THANK you
<4> amd processors used to be so bloody cheap..I hate how expensive they are now. Hopefully with this next offering from intel, it'll force the amd prices down..
<5> about processors
<5> snoops still
<5> $ for $
<5> amd still owns intel
<2> fidelity hes right about what?
<2> you made no point
<5> the processors
<2> what about them
<0> I mean...I was waiting for just ONE intelligent person in this room to back me up
<5> intels architecture ****ing ****s
<2> the benchmarks prove more then words
<5> theyre outdated
<2> NOW
<5> there are no benchmarks
<2> conroe is different
<5> please show us where
<2> http://www.anandtech.com/tradeshows/showdoc.aspx?i=2716
<0> Fidelity_, there are conroe benchmarks
<0> vs an fx-60
<2> that amd is also oc'd the conroe isint
<2> thats the best amd chip out now
<2> vs the middle of the line conroe chip
<2> so once again i am right
<2> listen u can argue your points all u want but benchmarks dont lie
<0> apples to oranges benchmarks...
<2> you can fight till the grave on your points but the benchmarks tell it all
<6> cornrow kicks amd ***
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