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<0> sure
<1> or return it and buy a new whole pc
<2> lakevren hp things are for people who bought a comp only to work and don't change anything in it , the have a purpose still
<1> kepler, i'd rather get PIII from ebay.
<2> well yeah
<2> but think of the corporation out there who get wholesale volume discount etc
<2> just don't get concentrated on hardcore gamers
<3> i am a pretty hardcore gamer
<1> kepler
<3> that is my main hobby
<1> that's why you "recycle" pcs.
<3> recycle?
<1> reuse is probably the better term
<1> but anyways... you give your ****ty computer... or sell it... to some other guy who wants one.
<3> im going to keep it
<2> some others guys haha



<3> it will become a linux server box
<1> cause most of the time
<1> old computers are fine. Hard drive may need replacing though.
<3> my old computer can run counterstrike source on medium-low settings =D
<1> anyways
<3> guys, richter said something, but i want a second opinion on it
<1> DFI Ultra-D/Infinity Ultra, Opteron 165 or 170 or 175, 7900GT or X1800XT 512, hard drive, optical drive, and audio card if you need one (i'd buy the x-fi for gaming).
<1> that should cost you 1300.
<3> really?
<1> that's without the other crap, like case and PSU.
<1> and monitor
<1> and keyboard and mouse
<3> and an OS
<1> that too
<3> and i dont give a **** about soudn
<1> i keep forgetting about the OS
<3> 2 speakers and a subwoofer is plenty for me
<1> you should. I do =P
<1> then again
<3> I have a Realtek HD audio thingy in this computer
<3> i dont know if that is integrated or what
<1> i have like... a 370 usd 2.1 set up.
<3> but i know it is 8channels and supporst 7.1
<1> it's intergrated.
<3> ok
<3> So, this computer + http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102008 = how many years?
<4> http://rixstep.com/1/20060521,00.shtml
<1> depends.
<3> on?
<1> how long the HP HDs fail.
<1> and the capacitors too
<1> and the lack of a good psu.
<3> i dont care about how long it will live from the breaking aspect
<3> because i had an old compaq from 1999 for 7 years now
<3> and it runs fine
<1> ok
<3> i mean gamewise
<1> for me
<1> that would last...
<1> 1 year.
<3> lol, why do you say that?
<1> cause im waiting for conroe
<1> and DX10
<1> duo
<3> well, how long would it be able to run games?
<1> i'd advise you to wait.
<1> until like fall.
<5> dx10 is due out end of year, isn't it?
<1> pretty much when vista comes out
<1> and that's when dx10 is out
<1> but
<3> If i were to wait
<1> i plan to buy a dx9 card
<5> and obviously no games making big use of it, until 6 months later
<3> and buy an uber computer then
<1> and then upgrade to dx10
<3> how much would it cost, and how long would it last?
<1> im going to upgrade to dx10 when necessary
<1> duo, maybe 2000.
<5> vista is due for jan/feb isn't it?
<1> yes snoops.



<1> dx10 games won't be out until like... summer
<1> and even then
<1> Crysis can use dx9
<1> so i could care less.
<1> except maybe the enhanced performance
<5> well, what developer is going to cut out most of their market
<5> since dx10 is vista only..
<1> rephrase.
<3> Here is what I would want: A good conroe processor (i wouldnt pay over 100 dollars for a couple more hundred mhz) + A good graphics card (doesnt have to be the BEST ever), 2GB of ram, and around 300GB on the HD
<3> no physics processing bs, or good audio card
<3> would that be 2000 dollars?
<2> approx
<5> haha definitely well under 2000 for that
<1> yeah
<2> depends where you buy
<1> i would say well under 2000
<3> www.newegg.com
<2> www.pricewatch.com
<3> or pricewatch
<2> yeah
<1> newegg, zipzoomfly
<1> monarch computer... maybe
<1> recently, they don't have the best prices.
<1> newegg is seriously cutting into the graphics retailing
<3> so, ~1500 maybe (im hoping) ?
<1> yeha
<1> yeah
<1> let's see
<1> conroe board will cost... 200 bucks?
<1> conroe chip will cost around 300-500
<1> well
<1> 400-600
<1> graphics card... 300
<1> 300gb... 100 bucks
<5> that's a pretty big price for a cpu
<1> 2gb of ram... depends. 200-300
<1> well
<1> it is dual core
<5> ..so?
<1> and it is new
<6> no, conroes will start at $300 afaik
<5> a pentium d 805 is like 100 bucks
<1> current dual cores cost a lot...
<1> cause pent ds ****?
<5> and that thing can be overclocked till the cows come home
<1> you oc that to 4ghz
<6> also, a pentium D is the extreme low end of its line heh
<1> they STILl ****
<1> *still
<3> 500(Conroe)+200(Board)+300(Graphics)+300(RAM) --- Would that be uber?
<6> thats very debatable
<1> 4ghz oced Pentium D < Athlon X2 4400+
<1> or was it 4600+
<3> custom built btw...no HP bull****
<1> whichever it was...
<3> would it be uber?
<1> you forgot case and hd
<1> and optical drive
<1> and psu
<1> which will cost you 200-250 more
<3> thats fine
<6> a x2 4400+ will kick the **** out of it for gaming
<1> 1550 usd in all.
<1> oh wait
<6> but some of us do more than game ;)
<3> i dont care about the extras
<1> case is like 100, so... cost you more by 300-350
<1> so, 1650 =P
<3> And that would be an el-uber comp?
<3> do i need any of that bull**** physics processor?
<1> well, rukk, i do gaming. I don't currently care about other apps =P
<6> right..
<1> Aegia should ****ing die.
<6> then you shouldnt get a x2 in the first place


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