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<0> the L1 cache
<0> 128k + 128k
<1> <5> yep
<0> thats...no
<0> no way
<1> My first build ever
<0> its 128k total, or 64k + 64k
<2> I need a temp monitor for my asus k8n-dl
<2> any software?
<3> ok, I got a problem, I have this computer that won't boot to cd
<3> the bootable cds are good, the drive reads cds
<3> and I have boot to cd set to a higher priority over anything else
<4> Does it make a big difference if SLI runs at 8x or 16x?
<4> Cause of the new nVidia chipsets.
<5> apparently not Brizzzer
<5> I (for me personally) would go for 16x on both if I could, just so in vga mode(all four dvi/vga outs working) I have both at 16x, instead of the old method of primary getting 16x, and secondary getting 1x
<5> sli just annoyes me..I hate the idea of losing 3 perfectly good monitor outputs
<4> I am just tired of having to upgrade every time a game comes out I want to play.
<4> So I want to over kill.
<5> are you having to upgrade *THAT* often?
<5> I can still play most games on a 3 year old machine, obviously not on high or anything, but they're still definitely playable.
<6> anyone else had bad experiences with a msi k8n neo4 f
<6> ?
<7> what you getting?
<6> thats a motherboard
<7> yeah but anything els?
<6> a whole system
<6> for a friend
<6> probably team up with a 3700 san diego
<7> yeah i know
<7> but your really slow
<7> do you have a list
<6> wtf?
<6> what do you mean im really slow
<6> ...up yours
<7> it will take you few hundered years to find the right hardware
<6> whatcha mean by that
<7> you don't need to search to find the best.. most old hardware gone through alot of bios and hardware reversions and they work better t han newer ones
<6> i think that msi board is about 6 months old or something
<7> you said total is 100$?
<7> 1000$
<6> ppl said the platinum/sli boards were great. didnt know about the F versions
<6> including monitor.... im hoping for under 800
<6> the cpu may have to drop i dunno
<6> im getting everything but that right now
<7> just get her a slow AMD 64 and a board with intergrated modem, nic, sound, video and firewire, good 512mb ram and PSU and cheap tiawanes case
<6> that mb is only 80$ i didnt wanna go much cheaper on the mb than that
<6> i was going to throw in 1gb of ram because 512 is the minimum now a days and i dont wont her with the minimum
<6> we'll see though
<6> i may have to rethink this over
<8> still deciding
<7> yeah but she doesnt need it right now with XP.. in few months prices will drop
<6> memory prices you mean?
<7> yes
<7> everything
<8> TIP EneergE whatever motherboard you buy 2 things #1 3 year warranty @ a support website
<7> XP will run with cheap intergrated video but you can buy a good 3D card for vista in a year or more
<6> im just quoting stuff right now.. im expecting everything including cpus to drop when the m2s come out
<8> lognhorn had a better sounding name vista sounds like k-car
<6> TrAiNsZ: agree with that... what exactly went wrong with your k8n boards?
<7> TrAiNsZ it's the offical name
<8> voltage reg blew
<6> could that have been because of power failures?
<8> Timebomb2 what 1 vista or lghrn
<6> i may throw in my backups for her and get myself a new one
<7> they started with the code longhorn but they named it vista
<8> ups'ed doubtful
<6> hmm
<8> EneergE
<8> just cos i had 1 mobo die isnt a sin you know
<8> the msi plat k8n rocks usually
<8> i sell a ton of mobos
<6> yeah
<9> guys
<8> id sell it again
<6> she AINT getting the sli/plat. hehe. its the plain F version im getting thats 80$
<9> can you give your input on what i should do for my science project
<9> that will involve, heatsinks and processors?
<9> as in, what can i do?
<7> EneergE do you have aline for the mobo
<8> illmatic question for you WHAT CAN YUU really do with all this new found knowledge ?
<6> Timebomb2: what?
<9> huh?
<9> its for a project
<8> what are you capible of making
<6> the antec smartpower 2.0 400 watts are decent for a psu?
<8> top psu EneergE
<8> what cpu
<8> prob only a 350 watt needed if no big video card
<6> im waiting on making that decision
<8> not worth thinking
<6> yeah, i have a 350watt in this computer and it runs a oc 7800gt and a p4 3.4g
<6> but its only like 5$ more or something
<9> antec, fortron, seasonic
<8> with video get a 400WATT+ nonboard video 350 watt
<9> go with does
<6> now 6$
<8> enermax too
<9> *those*
<8> i use a enermax 420 or is it a 430 with a 780ggt no heat
<8> 7800gtx
<6> in my personal build ill be going with a pcp&c but i know she cant afford anything like that... im trying to build it cheaper than she can get a 3ghz cpu from dell for
<8> sorry
<8> pc n c ?
<8> pc chips ?
<8> lol
<8> your joking right ?
<8> fok ell
<8> dell
<8> like dell even uses REAL mobos
<8> they buy ALL of intels non conform boards
<8> hence the 1 year warranty
<6> pc power & cooling
<8> whereas you buy a boxed INTEL mobo and its 3 year warranty
<6> top quality stuff
<8> go figure
<8> oh them
<6> yeah
<8> ok
<8> ya
<8> :O)
<6> hmm
<6> with a 3700+ and that k8n neo4 f and a monitor and a gig of ram its all going ot be about 800$ with shipping
<6> crt monitor that is
<6> on dell a 3ghz w/ flat panel monitor shipped is 750$
<5> what size crt?
<6> 17"
<5> (don't make her use a 17" crt")
<5> ugh.
<6> 105$ or soemthing
<6> heh
<5> why do people skimp on monitors?
<6> all the lcds are like 200$
<10> I have a 21" monitor and a 52" HDTV I use as a monitor
<5> yeah.. at least get her a 19" crt
<6> hahahHAHA
<6> !
<6> i'll just let her buy her own damn monitor
<6> and just do the tower
<6> that'll work
<6> shipping may not be as high either
<10> You know what's awesome?
<10> If you have an HDTV, with DVI-in like I do.
<10> You can hook it up and play a 3d visualization or 3d screensaver to go with the music
<6> hmm, i wish i had a script that made a big middle finger right now
<10> <^>
<6> 685 without the monitor shipped
<6> with a 3700+ which should be better than the 3ghz p4
<10> Duh
<10> AMD > P4.
<5> does your hdtv have hdmi?
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