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<0> Has anyone ever monitored a package coming from UPS online? If so, did it come on the day they predicted when the tracking number was clicked, or did it come a day sooner or later? I ordered something off of Newegg.com with 3 day shipping and do not understand how UPS can say that the package is "on time" but will not arrive until the fifth business day after being shipped
<0> Okay i got a hardware question. How well and long will my amd 3700+ amd athlon 64 pc with 1 gig of ram and a geforce 7800gt card play games at full resolution?
<1> can anybody tell me how hot there p4 3ghz+ arerunning
<2> hot enough
<3> why
<2> my 3.4 ghz i like 50 C, but thats not high compared to what i can take.. so dont worry
<1> mine is like 65 C
<1> i cant figure what is wrong
<1> br
<1> brb
<3> anyone here familiar with overclocking video cards?
<4> eneerge> where u from?
<3> if raising the memory frequency causes the screen to go blank and you have to reset your computer/u are able to close the program but when u return to desktop, everything is unstable; could this be psu related instead of video card related?
<3> <esd_t64> mr google is very familiar
<1> do i need to wait a while for heat compound to settle for it to be effective?
<3> it will be more effective after it settles
<1> nhow much should i put on
<1> a thin film no?
<3> yes
<3> thin thin layer
<1> how thing
<3> dont use fingers either
<1> why sdont use your fingers?
<3> because the oil in them interfers with it's thermal abilities
<1> u think it makes that much of a difference?
<5> is overburn automatic with nero
<5> ?
<1> and after i apply it should i put heat sink on or keep off and let it settle?
<3> it was in nero 7
<5> 6?
<1> ??
<6> ??[x]: Usage: ?? <word> [> nick]
<1> should i wipe it off and reapply?
<7> Yes
<7> If you're ever changing thermalpaste
<5> re-apply what>
<7> be sure to whipe the old surfaces (CPU/HSF) clean
<8> rubbing alcolhol helps get stuff off good
<7> Use a paper towel with LIGHT force on the CPU, and you can scrub teh HS hard, even use some rubbing alcohol
<8> alcohol..
<5> isopropyl is better >_>
<1> well i used my fingers to spread it i mean does it make that much of a difference
<5> safer too
<8> isopropyl is rubbing alcohol
<7> MagicaL: Once, in a pinch, I was a customers house and had to get a heatsink off a P2 Slot 1 proc, which had been put on with thermal epoxy
<5> isopropyl has less water in it
<7> You know how I got it off?
<8> I use the 99% stuff ;)
<5> isnt that isopropyl?
<8> ya... I think so.. ;)
<7> Went next door to the dollar store and bought a $1.00 bottle of perfume and sprayed it on the heatsink to get the residue off after I pried them apart
<8> Ryeuken: if you used your fingers, the oils are bad, and there is no way you could get any consistancy or the proper amount you need
<1> how should i spread it
<8> use a credit card or business card
<7> Credit card
<8> something with a clean straight edge
<8> and don't use a lot...
<5> using a lot = very very bad, i know from experience
<8> it should be a very thin film... covering the entire surface and nothing more, basically as thin as you can get it but still making sure it is present
<7> go get a nail
<7> put a dab on the head
<8> are you using the white goopy stuff or a silver based thermal paste?
<7> Touch that to the proc and scrape it on with the credit card
<8> I generally squeeze it directly onto the chip and apply from there
<8> using arctic silver
<7> MagicaL: Using a nail is easier for beginners, so that's generally where I start
<1> all i have is heat sink compound
<8> so I am ***uming its 'white' goop then
<1> yes
<1> and some dummies told me to scrape off the stuff already on the intel heat sink
<1> and just with this compound cpu is running 50 degrees hotter now
<8> hrmm. .you might want to invest in some better stuff.. although I have read places where the 'white' goop isn't really any worse than AS
<1> and i cannot boot at all
<7> Arctic Silver 5.
<7> White goop is okay,but for intel, every degree counts
<8> agreed
<1> well i want to get my pc up and now im ****ed
<1> and even with the intel compound it was at lkike 60-70C
<1> and i dont know why
<8> is it a prescott?
<8> do you have ample cooling in your case? good airflow is also required other than just making sure your cpu has the appropriate thermal paste
<5> goddamit
<5> i just saw the commerical marketing intel processors in mac computers
<5> i almost cried
<1> my old 2.8 i had no problems
<8> your 2.8 was prolly a northwood
<1> prescott yes
<1> stepping 540J
<1> whats normal operating temp for them
<1> think regular white stuff is enough or just forget it
<8> 60-70 isn't uncommon
<1> so thats fine?
<7> 60-70 is way too high if that's C
<8> i forget the max
<7> 78
<7> Under full cycle load
<8> like I say tho Ryeuken... if your case doesn't move a lot of air around, that can also be your problem
<1> i mean wtf i have luan li alum case
<1> how many fans do u people use
<7> I have 4 fans in my case
<7> hard drive, GPU, CPU and a 120mm case fan
<8> no average.. but most I ***emble have 6+
<8> 2 for ps, 1 large 120mm exhaust, one cpu heatsink, two intakes (at least 80mm)
<7> Oh if you want to count the power supply, I have 7,
<7> an 80mm in the PSU reair, and two 40mms inside, so the PSU acts like an exhaust
<8> heh.. well they all should count
<8> considering the power supply fans are supposed to directly affect the cooling of your hsf
<7> Oh yeah
<7> forgot, I have an 80mm fan in the front
<7> so that's 8
<1> i guess i need new case then
<8> heh ;)
<8> lian li makes real good stuff
<1> i only have ps fan and 1 more in the back
<7> one 80mm in the front, two 40mms on the hard drives, a 92mm on the CPU with a direct pipe to the outside of the case
<1> and 2 in the front but i dont think they are spinning
<8> i'm sure you can put more fans in the case
<7> a 60mm fan on the GPU, two 40s in the PSU above the proc to drain off residual heat, and an 80mm exhaust at the back of the PSU
<8> well that isn't helping you
<1> is there page listing temperatures for the cpu
<8> www.intel.com will give you tech specs
<1> i cant find it on their easily for anything
<9> hi
<1> i cant belive the new cpus have so much problem with heat
<1> does the dual core run hot also?
<9> what are some popular external enclosure brands?
<9> attempting to purchasing an internal hard drive and an external enclosure and the installing it myself
<8> yeah they do
<1> i wouldnt have bothered if i knew it was going to be such a big problem
<1> so should i use this white paste or forget it?
<8> well going without thermal paste would be crazy
<10> you could have damaged the cpu if you used your finger, and weren't grounded
<8> but applied incorrectly will be bad aswell
<1> i have white heat compound from radio shackj
<1> what case should i get or u think just arctic silver and 60-70c is fine?
<7> arctic silver
<7> 60+ is NEVER fine
<7> I run 30c idle, 34c under load on my dual core 3800
<1> could my cpu be defective?
<7> Possibly.
<1> i never seen this before
<7> Although with that fast CPU, you want ample exhauyst
<10> intel cores run a lot hotter than amd
<7> yup
<10> did you have any problem with it before, running at 60-70?
<1> dont think so
<10> so why did you try to fix something that wasn't broken?
<1> i didnt know if it was above spec and everybody was telling me it was too hot
<1> well i loaded the asus prob app and it told me alert its too hot
<1> i asked people they said it was thats way too much
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