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<0> what about the drive placement
<1> thubscrews for everything is ***y too
<0> do you have to stretch the IDE cables?
<1> naw.
<1> not at all
<2> nerp: how much of difference does the raptor run as far as speed? i thought about getting another harddrive, a 7200rpm 250gb 16mb cache one to replace this sata 8mb 160gb or just get another 160gb and run raid
<1> eneerge - the raptor is awesome.
<1> i've got the 36 gb.. not even the fastests one
<1> i don't even see the XP logo on bootup anymore
<1> it just flickers
<2> nice
<1> a rar job that would take 45 seconds on my maxtor would take like, 5-10 on the raptor
<1> games load so fast
<1> i'm always the first person on the map in any game
<0> sata. heh.
<0> ya know i just had serious data corruption and a bill for data recovery, because of SATA
<0> ****ing motherboard ****ed up
<1> its a little loud during drive access but otherwise its awesome
<2> hmm
<1> that sux jez, i'd blame the mobo more than SATA though. :D
<0> the drive i was *reading* from was seriously corrupted
<2> i may just get one of those and install all my games on it and leave my os and apps on this drive
<0> OS didnt boot
<1> a raptor is awesome for OS and a few of your favorite games
<1> i made 'My Documents' be on the 250GB maxtor
<2> its not the interface that caused it jez, sata is pretty good
<2> lot better than a 7200rpm ide
<0> mmm
<1> the raptor is just for the OS, swap, and some games and apps
<0> next mobo i buy needs to be damn reliable though
<1> most of the time when i'm gaming or just messing around on IRC etc the maxtors spin down -- i ahve them set to after 1 hr of idle
<1> my other spare storage drive is just used for when I rip dvds and encode, that is usually spun down for days on end. :D
<0> http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=98523
<0> lian-li - ****ing
<1> heh
<1> it IS the cream of the crop, tho. :D
<1> i honestly feel like I might have this case 10 years from now
<1> unless specifications change so drastically
<0> it looks pretty ordinary frankly
<1> well in person its more impressive. it's really nice brushed aluminum.
<1> all aluminum, too
<1> there's no steel or skimps
<1> thing weights like nothing too
<1> weighs
<1> and its strong
<1> i can stand on mine
<0> what about the PC-7 plus
<1> url?
<1> oh
<1> yeah
<1> that one is MUCH smaller
<1> no sliding mobo tray
<1> it's like a minitower pc
<0> why do you like the sliding mobo tray?
<1> as compared to a mid-tower
<0> dont you just have to disconnect everything first before you slide it?
<1> jez - because when you set the mobo in for the first time it's easy to do so
<1> especially when it's time for heatsink installation, etc.
<1> and....
<1> the power/led switches / connectors...
<1> in the lian li all connect to a cable.. right?
<1> so like
<1> you have this little thing you connect to the mobo.. as its on your lap
<1> for power, led,.. all those wires go to one wire
<1> that plugs into the case once the mobo is in
<1> and you're done
<1> you don't have to try and connect power and reset leds when it's hard to reach in the case
<2> is there a program that will tell you if u have a sata 3gb or a sata 150 connections. i know i got 4 satas but i dont know what kind they are
<1> you do all that beforehand and just slide the mobo in place and snap it in and done
<2> bleh nm
<2> i have my psu maxed right now
<0> nerp: yeah but you have to reconnect all the storage device cables
<1> yeah but that takes two seconds. :D
<0> so you wouldnt wanna take the mobo out much anyway
<0> would you tyake the mobo out much?
<1> i don't. it's just nice to have when you ARE replacing mobos or whatnot
<1> in 3 years i've gone through 3 mobos. :D
<1> i upgrade kinda regularly though
<1> the drive cages are laid out well, though.
<1> very easy to access, don't have to worry about mobo
<1> and there's enough options to have them where you want
<0> how about Antec?
<0> they do some cheaper ones
<1> i've heard decent things abou thtem.
<0> hmm
<0> http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?rb=15386060225&action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X3Jldmlld3M=&product_uid=56769
<2> 3 motherboards in 3 years... damnit dude
<0> that looks suspiciously like a mini
<2> if i build this computer for my friend id want it to last 4 years
<0> your friend better be prepared to pay some serious cash then
<2> heh
<1> well one mobo blew to bad caps, another was a replacement for that, and I just replaced that with this socket 939 board for my opteron
<2> serious cash?
<0> well these 'sturdy' cases are pretty damn expensive for lumps of metal
<0> #
<0> :-\
<2> i dont think the motherboard will affect the price too much
<2> i got a 140$ picked out rightt now
<0> i want a case that's sturdy, quiet, spacious, well laid out...
<0> and not too expensive!
<0> is that too much to ask>
<2> hehe
<0> what do you think of this: http://www.tweaknews.net/reviews/p160w/
<1> a little gaudy for my tastes. :D
<0> whatddya mean
<1> a little glitzy. :D
<1> it appears to borrow a lot of design on the interior from lian-li
<0> hmm
<0> looks a little *too* big.....
<2> same here, i think its a little busy
<0> 10 drive bays? eugh
<1> yah all the colors and stuff are kinda 'kiddie'
<0> i need the next drive down in this series
<0> that's too big
<0> next case i mean
<2> would a 250gb sata 150 harddrive with 16mb cache be faster than a normal sata 2 harddrive with 8mb cache? what about a 10000rpm sata 150 with 8mb cache. the 10000rpm has only 36gb of storeage though
<1> i look at my case as a BMW and that antec as a kid who has a honda civic with racing stripes and a spoiler. :D
<1> EneergE - the raptor beats all other consumer sata drives
<1> sata2 or whatnot
<2> heh
<1> the 10,000 rpms. . :D
<0> nerp: i always hated morons driving BMWs. :-)_
<1> bmw, porsche, mercedes, take your pick. :D
<1> i think the kid in a civic with a coffee can for a muffler is the bigger moron. :D
<0> he thing is that antec is damn cheap in comparison
<0> and has 99% of the quality
<0> who's the mug?
<1> that antec is fine, if you want bright colors and stuff. :D
<0> i want a good case that's nicely priced
<1> you could always drape a thin sheet that can let air p*** through over it
<3> any1 kno about scanners
<0> i dont really mind the colours, the thing is gonna be under my desk
<0> that's a problem, people care too much about case looks nowadays
<0> and not so much about design
<0> i dont care if it's just beige
<1> yeah exactly
<0> i want good design
<1> Inwin use to make good cases
<1> i still have an inwin Q500 or something
<1> i forget the name
<1> but its a big tower and it's rugged
<3> how impirtant is scanning resolution on a scanner
<1> sru02 the most important thing in scanning is its highest non-interpolated resolution
<3> each scanner has 2 numbers
<3> one is 600 X 1200
<3> other is 1200 x 1200
<3> other is 600 x 2400
<3> and 1200 x 4800
<3> what do those numbers mean
<0> the resolution the scanner can achieve?
<1> well horizontal/vertical dpi in each case. Be wary, though. Many 1200x1200 are actually 600x1200 that use software to "double" the resolution
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