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<0> they now have idiot proff blugs
<1> "insert cpu here" "plug in atx here" "plug in power cord" etc etc
<0> plugs
<1> all very simple
<2> true
<1> gauranteed you can build it, or someone will blow up your house
<2> but I just dont think I have to time to make sure evrything is compatable
<1> just buy a socket 939 motherboard and a athlon 64bit 3500+
<1> you can get that and the mobo for $199 at Fry's
<1> or with a nice Antec, nforce chipset for $279
<1> don't forget you need 400-500wt psu
<2> ya
<1> tell you what
<1> this is a good deal
<1> for you
<0> Fact #49: There is a greater chance to die while waiting for Pc parts then to have it working within 2 hours.



<1> but it's a 300W psu, you'd think they'd include one better
<2> ya 300 aint enough i guess
<2> ok cool thanks for your help
<3> X2 baby
<4> i finally decided to order the klipsch 2.1s
<1> I need a power cord for this PAPST fan
<5> Hoe`, burntman: you guys around?
<0> nerp: good speakers,
<0> same ive got
<4> yeah i've spent the last couple days hitting all the electronics stores testing out amps, speakesr, mini systems, the works. the klipsch 2.1s sound the best for the price for computer speakers
<6> i use my stereo
<6> lol
<5> burntman: i hooked up the ATX cable...weird how its an 8 pin connector yet the board only has 4
<5> it still hooks on..but thats what threw me off
<4> I don't own a stereo currently. My last denon reciever finally blew up
<4> and I sold my JBL monitors
<5> even with that...still no beeps or video ;/
<5> anything i shoudl check or try?
<4> I've been using some good headphones for a while but I want speakers for the PC.
<5> nerp: i did a post on avsforum.com about speakers etc.
<5> its under the audio sectoin and is rather recent
<5> might want to check out their replies
<4> all I gotta say is that 98.5% of the 2.1 computer speaker market is pure garbage.
<4> unless you want shrill highs and muddy lows. :D
<7> yep yep yep
<7> thats why I use an HT system
<4> I'm going to get a new amp and pair of monitors eventually. I wanted something just for listening to tunes in the time being
<5> ahh isee
<5> burntman: no input for my situation? i'm the guy from this morning ;]
<4> I've budgeted in a pair of genelecs sometime this summer. :D
<1> http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/promedia21/verdict.asp
<4> http://www.audio-ideas.com/reviews/loudspeakers/powered-monitors-4.html
<4> those are nice. :D
<4> $200!!??! I paid $118 for my klipsch 2.1s
<4> haha
<2> is this a good card ya think?
<2> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102506
<5> this morning i was here trying to debug my first build. it seems i didn't have the ATX connected on the mobo. i did just that and stil not receiving any beeps and computer won't post. anyone have any ideas?
<0> i paid $20 for my plipsch 2.1s
<0> kli*
<8> JonM|, I'd personally prefer a card with dual dvi
<0> (cable is broken only 1 speaker and sub works, cable needs to be replaced)
<2> but other than that, (as I only have one monitor)
<8> JonM|, and if you're going to get ATI sapphire is a solid choice
<8> and i personally prefer nvidia...
<8> but it seems like a good price
<2> I have a dell 20inch widescree, it should be fine with that?
<8> hold on a sec let me look at somethin JonM|
<8> yeah
<8> but just let me poke around newegg for a sec
<8> JonM|, you can get a radeon x850xt for $197 after a mail in rebate...
<8> its HIS Hightech...whom I've never heard of
<2> ya i looked at that one to
<8> JonM|, what's your price range and what will you use it for?
<2> ~$200, 3dsmax and maya
<8> maya?
<2> yea for the 3d program
<2> animation etc
<8> like rendering stuff? not gaming?
<2> no gaming



<2> but its similiar because you have 3d viewports and such
<2> they make video cards for 3d apps and such but they are $$
<8> well...wouldn't a quadro fx540 or somethin be better?
<8> quadro fx540 is like $230
<5> ****. i have the 8pin hooked right into the 4pin. is this ok, or do i need an adapter?
<2> i'll look into it
<5> i thought the overlap (non touching pins) is ok
<8> JonM|, I don't know much about the quadros so you'd certainly want to look into price/performance issues
<2> yup
<8> but if that card gets better performance for rendering than the gaming models...there ya go
<2> yup, alright thanks for you help
<9> My 12V line is giving 13.2V
<9> which is above Asus Probe's 10% warning threshold
<9> should I be concerned
<10> me no spreek engrish, 5 dorrah me ruv u rong time
<1> no ***hattery allowed
<1> ops, remove him!
<1> (any second now, it's coming!)
<1> ok the ops are in an emergency.... so YOU'RE lucky!
<11> 5 vikingfjords bottles, freeeezy, waiting for me
<12> Grey Goose, Slippery Nipples, Jaeger and Red Bull are all in my near or immediate future
<13> hehe
<13> i went to cl*** really ****ed up this morning
<11> alcohol is a neccesity when computing
<11> not alcohol 120% though
<12> THat's pretty much a necessity for me
<1> holy ****, I thought of an AWESOME question to ask
<13> FAGS?
<13> pitz
<14> lol 'g
<1> can the transfer rate on a PCI "network card" increase if put into PCI-E slot?
<10> no
<12> you can't put a PCI card in a PCIe slot
<10> oh i can do it
<10> give me some super glue
<10> and a soldering gun
<12> The bus is the same, only made faster, but the physical plug is bigger
<14> lol 'g
<1> oh that's right
<1> forgot about the size
<14> lol 'g
<1> any pci-e or agp network cards?
<10> even if so bi0h4z4r_ it still won't make it faster
<14> lol 'g
<1> check this out Darken
<10> there is more than just the pci bus to take into account here
<1> I remmber you btw
<1> you helped me out one day
<12> bi0h4z4r_ you just asked if there were any accelerated graphics port network cards.
<14> lol 'g
<10> pitz calm down man
<1> I'm drinking
<10> let's get you a happy meal from mcdonalds
<10> your choice of toys
<14> lol 'g
<1> my wife is aborting our 2nd child
<14> who cares
<13> :-O
<13> why
<1> so I'm drinking :)
<1> too soon she says
<14> lol 'g
<1> and she left with the baby to let me think about it hours ago
<1> anyways...
<1> Darken
<10> yes


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