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<0> :D
<0> I didnt sleep
<1> what did you do? ;x
<0> nothing
<0> couldnt sleep
<1> ooh boy
<1> well, I feel your pain :x
<1> I got 3 hours of sleep in
<1> now.. I'm wide awakae
<1> awake*
<1> http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/s/213/213083_bumslap_builder_branded_a_pervert.html
<1> oh god.. you just know that guy touches kids
<1> or likes the chemotherapy.
<2> Nik: what is reasonably priced? under $1000?
<3> less than $300
<2> Nik: good luck



<3> heh
<3> the answer i was dreading
<3> i'm surprised there's not a bigger market for RAID enclosures
<3> thanks anyway
<4> how is steeless steel is made?
<1> WHAT?
<4> i don't know i can't spell anymore
<4> i slept only less than 4 hours
<4> stainless steel
<4> my brain is ****ed
<5> look up wikipedia
<5> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stainless_steel
<1> OH this ****s
<1> this ****s so hard
<4> ?
<1> as the night progresses, I just get more and more awake :|
<6> to tired to get sleepy
<6> thats a nice feeling
<1> only not
<1> anyway, I'm going to give sleep another shot
<1> gotta be up at 8:30am :|
<1> night guys
<5> bye
<4> openal is also from creative labs?
<7> What would you recommend between socket 939 and AM2?
<4> the cheapest socket
<4> with cheapest RAM
<4> 939
<7> Is the Ram expensive for the AM2?
<7> or can i use older types of ram in it?
<4> it's DDR II
<4> check the prices on newegg and compare
<7> Not that expensive
<4> the AM2 is slower than 939
<4> if you don't care about the money and you want the latest then Am2 is fine
<7> I do care, but i wanna be prepared for the future
<7> I'm on a tight budget
<4> cool
<4> prepared? you going to upgrade the CPU and leave the chipset? and DDR2? DDR 3 next year
<4> in 6 months your PC won't even worth upgrading
<7> So what are you saying?
<8> DDR2 is probably cheaper now than DDR
<4> do you have links for the AM2 hardware?
<8> which is really the only reason AMD is moving to DDR2
<7> You have AM2?
<4> Heretic` it's almost as cheap as DDR I with no performance gain that's why AMD moved to DDR II
<4> Pampers- for how long yoy going to keep the comp before upgrading?
<4> and do you play games
<8> it is cheaper now, actually, than DDR and AMD is moving there because intel already moved to DDRII, DDR2 is getting cheaper, DDR is going up in price
<8> there is supposed toi be a bit of a performance gain though from what I've read of the latest chipset reviews, something on the order of 5-8%
<7> Nix2k6: I will keep it for like 1 year and then i will commit suicide
<8> wasn't enough for me to give a **** about really
<4> i paid 65$ for 1GB Twinmos DDR I
<4> CL2
<8> I'm hoping my current box while last a good 2 years
<4> fastest timing
<7> hahaha, nah, Nix2k6, i have no idea how long i will keep it, maybe a couple of years
<4> DDR I is really matured even cheapest mem sticks run fast



<8> I just bought 2 gigs of DDR500
<7> nice
<8> and it was like 165 or so
<4> not bad
<8> and the timing was nothing special
<4> DDR I 500 is like DDR II 1Ghz
<4> if we talk about performance
<4> DDR 400 and DDR II 800 same performance
<4> maybe DDR II little bit slower
<8> 2 gigz of DDR400 OCZ is 188, 2 gigz of DDRII 667 OCZ gold, for instance is 192
<4> i don't think DDR II worth it now it's a big mistake and they are fixing the latency issues in DDR III
<4> we are beta testing for them
<8> and DDR500 is like 4 gigs a second, DDRII 800 would be like 8 gigs a second
<8> DDRII has bad latencies, yeah, but the over all bandwidth should make up for it
<7> Can i use whatever i want?
<8> no
<7> I mean, the different type of Ram
<7> Depends on the mobo?
<8> if you get a 939 it's DDR if you get a AM2 it's DDRII
<4> Pampers- 939 is DDI
<4> DDR I is 184 pins and DDR II 240 pins
<7> yeah but there are different types of DDR II chips
<7> can i use em all?
<8> I just upgraded my whole box over the last 6 weeks or so
<8> and didn't think AM2 would be worth it at the time
<4> nope there is a SODIMM for DDR II and it's 200 pins
<8> so I just went with a 939 board
<9> Pampers-: get unregistered and nonecc
<4> you need a desktop DDR II for your mobo
<8> it's mature atleast
<4> 240 pins
<4> check the spec before you buy
<7> EneergE_: Why?
<4> o yeah and non ECC
<4> like EneergE_ said
<9> Pampers-: faster... and you dont need it unless you're running a server with a server motherboard
<8> there are not AM2 motherboards out as of yet
<9> may 22nd
<9> :)
<4> that's why am asking him to show me some links for the AM2 hardware
<8> you'll probably pay a slight premium to get them, they could be buggy to start out with and you're not really gaining any kind of m***ive speed increase
<7> I'm seeing lots of AM2 mobos here
<7> Is it a mistake or what?
<7> stocked too
<4> it's like the first 975 from intel they modified it after few months to make it run conroe
<8> I thought it wasn't out until summer
<4> first always buggy
<9> well... am2 will support their new cpus... which is why im probably going to get one simply for support... it accepts ddr2 so even if i have to buy a new motherboard at least i wont have to buy the ram too
<8> I didn't feel like being an "early adopter" heh
<7> Nix: http://www.komplett.no/k/kl.asp?bn=10717
<8> by the time I upgrade I expect the current AMD 64 line to be gone and something better to be out
<9> anyone know the projected lifespan of the am2?
<4> hes going to keep at least for 2 years at the time 4 cores or something new will be out
<8> that;'s surprising, looking at newegg there's NO AM2 motherboards in stuck
<4> i say 1.5 year
<9> bah gotta go to work. bbl
<8> I expect to keep mine a couple years
<8> and it's a 939
<10> <9> bah gotta go to work. bbl = mcdonalds
<4> Pampers- how much the price in USD?
<8> atleast I hope it will last a couple years, I don't see any killer stuff coming along except for DX10
<4> ***ehdog haha
<9> ***ehdog: no ****face... i run a vinyl siding business
<7> Nix2k6: USD-NOK find a calculator.. Guessing one dollar is 7.00 nok
<9> dont try to but in the conversation now
<9> BBL
<4> GO!
<4> do something useful with your life
<8> if you're dying for a AM2 buy an AM2, really don't think you're going to see much of a difference over the current crop of 939's
<4> Pampers- ok show me the CPU
<10> <9> ***ehdog: no ****face... i run a vinyl siding business = i dont have a clue what im doing in life but at least i have this vinyl **** to keep me busy
<10> ok
<4> Heretic` the problem ppl never listen to reason
<7> Nix: http://www.komplett.no/k/kl.asp?bn=10716


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