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<0> http://www.techtree.com/techtree/jsp/list.jsp?list=asktt_question_page_notsignedin&q=1&comment_id=338204
<1> either that, or pci-e is rare in that format
<0> doesnt that sound kind of fishy now that microsoft doesnt support 98 anymore
<2> Lakevren: its pcie
<3> Lakevren: you see this is why you're a ****er, you look at the specs and say oOoOo Ahhh, but you really don't know anything about the principals behind those numbers
<2> http://www.canadacomputers.com/index.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=008613&cid=999.243 <-- this right?
<0> i think thats fake..there just trying to get people to upgrade to xp
<1> shadowc4t
<1> i look at benchmarks
<3> Lakevren: but do you understand them?
<3> and do you understand gpu architecture?
<1> a limited amount
<3> a money could tell you which card to buy by looking at a benchmark chart
<1> though
<3> understanding the architecture behind it is totally different
<1> the shader pipelining that ATI did confused the hell out of me
<3> monkey*
<3> a gpu is just a specialized chip that's REALLY good at calculating linear algebra, in laymans terms
<1> "48 pixel pipelines" then "16 pipelines"
<1> but anyways
<4> 48ppl ftw!
<3> layman's even
<2> Can someone tell me the difference between these 2 cards?
<2> http://www.canadacomputers.com/index.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=008047&cid=999.243
<2> http://www.canadacomputers.com/index.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=007594&cid=999.243
<3> ATI can
<2> those 2
<4> hmm
<1> one's an AIW
<2> whats the diff?
<1> one can have inputs the other can't?
<2> o inputs only right?
<1> no
<2> how about performance wise?
<1> AIW = basically a tv tuner in a graphics card built in
<1> pretty freaking similar
<3> AIW ****s too
<2> ok :D
<1> yeah i have to agree
<2> ill take the 1/2 priced one
<1> the AIW software package ****s
<3> if they stuck an MPEG2 encoder on there I might buy one
<3> but NOO they just had to stick it up Microsoft's ***
<3> so the damn things aren't MCE compatible
<1> btw
<1> what's a good video input pci card?
<1> k no one knows. well gotta go to cl***.
<2> bye
<2> thx for the help
<5> According to Microsoft PressP***, Bill Gates will be leaving his role at Microsoft in July 2008. He'll be staying with the company, but is also moving to a more fulltime position with the Gates Foundation. 'Microsoft Corp. today announced that effective July 2008 Bill Gates, chairman, will transition out of a day-to-day role in the company to spend more time on his global health and education work at the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation.
<5> he must have heard Rukk talking **** about him
<6> eh?
<6> heh
<6> losers ;x
<3> >:)
<6> no ARIA can hold me
<3> lies
<6> pff
<6> :x
<5> Rukk: bill is on CBS news right now
<7> what is a good disk wiping software?
<7> i need to send this computer back again
<3> magnet
<7> i cant damage it
<3> dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/hda
<3> around 20 times
<7> is that for xp?
<7> or linux?
<3> Linux
<7> can i do that with linux live?
<7> linux live cd
<8> hey Rukk
<8> how do you "unlock" a drive?
<7> ok thx Shadowc4t
<3> bi0h4z4r_: I suggest you keep VERY quiet in here too
<6> I am the egg man..
<6> I am the walrus
<6> now what was that? ;)
<6> pff
<9> spamalope
<6> HP XW6000 Dual 2.4ghz XEON Workstation. 1Gb (2x512Mb) PC-2100 DDR, ATI 9550 256Mb video card. Also has DVD-ROM and DVD-RW. Floppy drive, of course, 80Gb used WD IDE drive. Windows XP Pro sticker on case. Active cooling on processors. Runs quiet and cool.
<6> $500 shipped OBO.
<6> THAT
<6> is a good deal.
<10> i'll buy it Rukk
<6> heh
<11> lol, Conroe is coming out in ~5 weeks, and here is AMD's counter strategy: To lower performance in their desktop processors.
<11> They're eliminating all the desktop processors with 1mb of l2 cache per core ;-0 (except the $1000 FX 62)
<11> http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=32452
<6> uhm
<6> do they NEED 1mb of l2 cache in any of their desktop processors?
<11> Sure. In games the extra cache can make upto a 10% extra difference.
<6> really
<6> this isnt scientific, but it'll demonstrate my point
<11> i'll see if amd's own site has a benchmark
<6> we ***ume that with a k8 architecture, a clockspeed increase will roughly give you a linear performance improvement, as there really isnt any sort of FSB and memory controller performance goes up with cpu clockspeed.
<6> given a 2ghz athlon64, being something around average
<6> a 10% increase in performance would require another 200mhz of clockspeed.
<6> now
<6> if amd can increase yields (smaller cores), run on less voltage (less **** to power), and run at higher clockspeeds (less cache to be limited by)..
<6> because in my experience
<11> You can consider AMD's own naming conventions: The Athlon 64 X2 4200 is a 2.2Ghz part with 512k cache per core. The 4400+ is a 2.2Ghz part with 1mb cache per core.
<11> The extra cache makes for "200+" worth of performance ;-0
<6> yeah, but wtf does that even mean? :X
<11> I have no idea :-P
<6> NOBODY DOES :D
<6> which is kinda the point :\
<12> okey, i have downloaded usb 2,0 driver from www.asus.com to my computer, how do i install it ? my motherboard is an asus a7n8xE-deluxe
<6> mayhaps the extra cache does help in the case of a dual core processor where the HT bus may become a bottleneck
<11> Extra cache certainly helps with multitasking, or working with large apps like Photoshop.
<12> can someone help me ?
<6> yes fredrikoZ. anybody here could help you. but nobody is going to
<6> and do you know why?
<12> yes i do
<6> good.
<12> toughguy
<6> thats right.
<12> hh..
<6> :)
<11> lol, what did he do? I was gonna tell him to get into the device manager and pick the USB controller then update driver ;-0
<6> he failed to A) read the rules here and B) read the bloody readme that came with his drivers
<6> its basic bloody windows **** that a monkey can figure out.
<11> :D
<11> Bill Gates is retiring in two years http://www.windowsitpro.com/Article/ArticleID/50615/50615.html?Ad=1
<9> yawn
<13> i wish
<1> [21:38:57] [Admiral_]: Bill Gates is retiring in two years http://www.windowsitpro.com/Article/ArticleID/50615/50615.html?Ad=1
<13> UH
<1> i just want the current CEO to step down. Also, FYI, Bill Gates is not the current CEO
<13> board chairman
<1> yes
<1> Mike Ballmer is the current ceo
<1> might have misspelled his name
<13> steve
<6> steve ballmer.
<1> whoops
<1> had the wrong first name too
<11> Developers Developers Developers Developers!
<6> and the nutjob is a zelot
<1> agreed
<1> "I will ****ing kill google" i think that qualifies it.
<14> DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS
<14> CRAFTSMEN CRAFTSMEN CRAFTSMEN CRAFTSMEN
<1> STFU STFU STFU STFU
<6> you know he doesnt let his kids have ipods? :)
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