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<0> about the wires..the stripped ones are positive yes?
<1> and see if monitor turns on
<0> i have it in the right ide spot right? its a black connector
<0> the "slave part" not the master
<0> should it be in the master if im not using ide drives?
<0> cause right now its empty
<0> on the mobo that is
<1> don't connect any hd/cdrom to mobo
<1> or any other pci cards
<1> just see if it loads up on monitor
<0> ok..only problme is..i have one monitor..the one im on now so i won't be able to talk and try this out ;]
<0> shoudl i disconnect the sound card too?
<1> yea
<0> ok
<1> just the bare minamum
<1> connected



<0> cpu, hdd, vide card?
<1> no
<1> video cards, ram, powersully
<1> powersupply*
<0> so not even hdd
<1> yea
<0> ok
<0> gonna try that now
<1> if it dosn't turn on they you have a problem
<0> really quick
<0> the parts that hook up..powerled etc.
<0> speaker
<0> which give the beeps
<0> shoudl that be connected?
<1> yea
<0> ...i was asking about eh wires because im not sure they are
<0> is positive the striped wires?
<1> i thought its the solid red?
<1> don't remeber
<1> but it dosn't really matter i think
<2> Can someone give me a clue of how i use my keyboard, it has a lot of buttons on it, but am i supposed to click them to type in this channel?
<1> use a battery to test it out heh
<0> there are other colored wires..but i'll try this ;]
<0> first
<1> well, right now that dosn't matter
<1> just try to see if video comes on the monitor
<0> hmm
<0> nothing
<0> i clicked themonitor buttons and it said power save mode click mouse or hit any key on keyboard
<0> i put in my mouse and moved it around..nothing
<3> I just got 10 floppy drive cables in the mail. It cost me 1.70
<1> so no video goes to monitor...
<1> umm video cards maybe back
<1> or lose memory
<1> or u cracked a cpu pin when installing
<3> Speaking of CPUs, I got my new heatsink on today.
<3> Outside of a poorly written manual, it was easy as ****. I got an Ultra Copper HS with 8 heat pipes and 2 80x80x15mm fans
<1> stock heatsinks work best if it was installed first
<3> adelas: wtf?
<1> b/c of its glue
<1> is very hard to get off of cpu
<0> im using a stock heatseak
<1> unless u got the right alocohol
<3> What are you saying, that if you install the stock heatsink first it works better than an aftermarket?
<3> Um... no, adelas
<1> CJDeak, yes unless u installed that after market first
<0> i guess i'll try this tomorrow getting late..perhaps i can catch you online tomorrow adelas
<0> i apprecaite your help
<1> removing past glue to cpu is what is hard to do
<3> Adelas: I ran the stock heatsink for 2 months, then installed the aftermarket. I had no problem getting the glue off
<3> it's not glue, dude
<1> when u took heat sink off
<3> It's a paste.
<1> isn't there still paste off the old heat sink stuck?
<3> Adelas: No
<1> then ur lucky it was't tight enough or u still havn't broken in
<3> Because I know what I'm doing and don't use thermal adhesive, I use thermal GREASE or thermal PASTE
<1> when i said glue i just meant paste
<3> Adelas, I've probably installed 500-1000 after market heatsinks, and I've never once had the heatsink become glued to the processor, because I use enough that it gets covered, but it doesn't drip and STICK
<1> when i said glue i just meant paste



<3> And you also said it sticks
<3> I say it doesn't, or at least it never has on me
<1> it does stick
<1> if u used it long enough
<3> HOw bout this
<1> the better it sticks, the better it has heat transfer
<3> I had a Athlon64 2800+ I used for 2 years, and when I replaced the stock HSF, no sticky
<3> NOt true, adelas.
<3> Trust me, I know a little bit about heat transfer.
<1> well the reason for sticking is because, the paste gets into the cpu / heat sink pores
<1> that is when the paste is broken in
<3> Adelas: How many heatsinks have you replaced?
<1> once thats is done, its very hard to clean that cpu
<1> okay CJDeak, u may be able to replace heatsinks, but does it make a difference or worst?
<3> Adelas, obviously we're doing something different since you have a hard time and I find it easy
<1> and for your info, i replace way too many on account of stupid people to count
<1> taking it off is easy
<1> when u heat up the heatsink a little
<1> cleaning and the surface of the cpu is the difficult part
<3> Actually, I just undo the clips, and pull
<1> and the cpu comes out with it?
<3> then remove the processor, set it on the foam pad, and brush it with a tissue
<3> adelas: No the cpu doesn't come out with it
<1> obviously, u never seen how a real retail stock fan sticks to cpu
<1> you must be dealing with "cheap" stock stuff
<3> Adelas: No, never have. Outside of almost every day of my life
<3> I have dealt with pretty much every processor series out from AMD and intel, and I've used hundreds of different heatsinks
<1> have you ever used a artic silver paste?
<3> Considering I've been professionally building and repairing computers and specializing in gaming and multimedia machines
<3> Andelas I have a 5cc tube in the drawer to my right
<3> AS5
<1> and u never had problem removing the heatsink when the cpu is cold?
<2> Can you mail me it?
<3> Para: no
<2> I need it, my computer is currently running at 278 fahrenheit
<3> Adelas: I don't work in a cold room, I work in room temperature
<3> Para: No it's not
<1> and what is room temperature for you
<2> 80 Celsius
<3> adelas: 70-75F
<3> para: 80c is not 278, and if you are running that hot please cut your computer off
<2> :)
<2> Its not that hot, i was kidding. But i do indeed need a better heat sink.
<3> Para: What processor?
<1> so ur saying u used the heatsink with that kind of paste, and it never got stuck to the cpu at room temperature
<1> when u removed it
<3> Ade: yup,
<3> That's what I'm saying
<2> Amd sempron 3000+ currently running at 2.3ghz (1.8 original)
<3> para: Socket 754?
<2> yes
<1> okay get some other people to give their opinion, as its a pain in the *** to clean that paste off the cpu
<1> u can wipe most of it off, but there will still be stuff on the cpu
<3> http://froogle.google.com/froogle_cluster?q=ultra+socket+754+HEATSINK&pid=4880932274071250722&oid=12145187397375611321&btnG=Search+Froogle&ei=0rXyQ8nkB6LSqQK2o_ywAw&sig2=YLAwHTfIF27pZD1SWByl7Q&lmode=&addr=&scoring=mrd&hl=en
<3> take a look at that para
<2> ok
<2> thnx
<3> I have one on two of my procs, it's keeping my 3000+ at 23C idle, 26 under full load,
<3> I have a Thermalright XP 90-c in my gaming rig and water cooling for my media center
<3> Anyway
<3> It's getting late
<4> watch this and lyao: http://gprime.net/video.php/japaneseschwarzenegger1
<5> I know what heaven looks like http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/IT/InsideNewegg/amdprocessor.jpg
<6> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11355069/
<7> hehe
<6> burntman should appreciate that link
<7> lol
<7> that sandwhich in the middle of the page makein me hungry
<7> wow that is alot of cpus
<6> TAKE YOUR MEDS
<7> :P
<5> This just in(to be filed under NO **** SHERLOCK): http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/opteron-165.html
<8> QUAD SLI! X16 :O droooll... shame its intel thohttp://www.giga-byte.com/MotherBoard/Products/Products_GA-8N-SLI%20Quad%20Royal.htm
<8> oops http://www.giga-byte.com/MotherBoard/Products/Products_GA-8N-SLI%20Quad%20Royal.htm


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