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<0> http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1645513&Sku=Z20-1105
<1> that was another option what is presscott.. which is the best one
<0> that will make your shiet quiet and very cool
<0> you have to get intel djdan?
<0> dothans are kick ***
<1> optware id prefer a p4 over amd.. i dont want amd again
<2> noooo... intels best cpu recently was the northwood :)
<2> it was ***y
<0> what is teh reason djdan?
<3> Get an opteron 170
<1> optware reason being previous experience with amd old computer overheating
<0> well anything can overheat
<1> and freezing.. and unreliable. and sometimes crashes with multimedia products due to bugs
<0> get a kick *** heatsink fan
<1> well at the moment im focusing on cpus and id prefer p4 over amd
<4> Intels best CPU was the Pentium 3. Then they grew a m***ive ****, were able to reach their own *** hole, and decided they didn't need chicks any more.
<4> I ment pentium 2.
<5> LOL
<6> hmmm northwood and dothan not bad
<7> yo Hoe` . those CuMines and Tualatins were great
<1> well out of the p4 range. theres xeon.. we can narrow that out... then theres celeron... apparently narrow that out... then theres e prescott, 660, d930 dual core.. ect...
<4> I'm not even sure what processor generation thouse were apart of.
<7> first cpu's to give me 99fps in CS
<5> haha
<7> Hoe`: P3 866 + Intel mobo + GF2 MX400
<3> opterons are were it's at ;)
<8> I like the idea of dual dual cores too
<3> hopefully i'll get my opteron 170 tomorrow.
<7> yep Cloneman . cause it actually gives you real SMP unlike hyperthreading
<4> Pkunk: I build a comp off of inhereited parts for my room mate. It's a t-bird 1.4ghz, ASUS board, MX400.
<4> I bet it could beat the piss out of your ***** P3 866 any day!
<1> wats opterons.. that wasnt one of my choices? neva heard of that cpu
<4> Opterons is AMDs way of ****ing the Xeons in the ***.
<3> Opterons have been around for a long time.
<9> yea
<7> Hoe`: i'm talking abt 5 years back when CS 1.0 ruled
<9> Sempron is the celeron etc
<5> LOL
<5> ya
<1> well i dont want any amds.. we are talking p4s heree
<9> LOL cs 1.0
<3> Opteron socket 939's are getting FX speeds
<4> PKunk: I never liked HL until HL2 came out. So I've got no idea what specs/time HL1 ran/existed on.
<1> P4 cpus left are: e prescott, 660, d930 dual core and more.....
<3> DJ^Dan missing out then.
<5> ya
<7> Hoe`: myself i loved HL until hl2 came out and ****ed it up
<1> so which do u recommend for lots of video editing and multimedia stuff with graphics ect..
<4> haha.
<3> Opteron is basically server CPU, better die, better cache, better everything.
<3> Opteron
<9> AMD 3800 X2 SON OF A BITCH
<4> I need to play HL again. I fell in total LOVE of HL2.
<3> that is a good chip too.
<3> Frys just had that and a ECS board for like 280 dollars.
<1> anyone.. not opteron.. p4 cpus
<3> I dont deal with Intel
<4> But when I tried HL a good number of years ago, I thought it was total ****e :)
<5> get a regular p4
<7> DJ^Dan: goto www.tomshardware.com , and www.anandtech.com and see the video encode,photoshop benchmarks
<5> it will do you well for what u need
<5> like a p4 3.5 - 4.5 ghz
<8> how do opterons performs in gaming vs X2's at similar clock speeds?
<3> and overpay ;)
<5> thats what he wants
<5> so let him have it
<3> Cloneman Probably not a huge noticeable difference.
<7> burntman: an x2 CPU will give 80-90% speedup for video encodes / graphics
<5> i know this
<5> i only use amd chips
<3> dfi boards mmmm
<7> x2 = Intel D
<1> Pkunk thanx
<8> geto: so its just price, the reason why we dont all have opeterons instead..
<1> burntman i thought there processors rather expensive.. so will 3ghz be sufficient for video editing?
<7> doesn't Opteron require ECC RAM too ?
<3> not socket 939 opterons
<5> yea dan
<3> Cloneman figure for a 3800 it's what, 350 dollars?
<1> burntman 3ghz is standard yeh.. so anything more then 3ghz up to 4.5ghz will cost afortune?
<3> or 300?
<3> a opteron 165 is about the same.
<8> so then why dont we all have em
<3> the opteron is going to be built better, like the FX chips
<3> Cloneman I don't know.
<3> That's something I cannot answer. But right now there's a HUGE opteron craze.
<8> do they run hotter?
<3> Not that i'm aware of.
<3> depends on stepping/code too.
<3> some have cold bugs
<3> some dont.
<8> i can imagine why... 2 cpus in a box have you have 4 cores shooting out data... like 800+
<8> 8000+*
<3> single cpu
<3> i dont think they make dual cpus in the socket 939 format
<3> although I could be wrong, never checked it out
<8> i thought opteron was the server chip that allowed multiple cpus
<3> SOCKET 939!
<3> they do make opterons in that format.
<3> http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=77857
<3> People are getting 1ghz overclock on a lot of these opterons
<3> even single core opterons, huge OC's
<3> on air @ default volts
<3> getting 800+ overclocks
<10> opteron 148 @ ghz here. :D
<3> see
<10> 3ghz
<3> nerp what stepping/code?
<10> CACJE 0546BPMW
<3> ah, a new one.
<3> on air?
<10> yes
<3> what cooling?
<10> vcore is at 1.54
<10> zalman CNPS9500
<3> whats the temp at load?
<10> 35-40C
<3> nice
<3> what board?
<10> yes. it's a dreamboat.
<10> EpoX 9NPA3ULTRA
<3> wow, get a dfi board I bet you could get some more
<3> dfi expert
<10> naaa, not into dfi.
<3> better OCing on it.
<10> havent' seen a CACJE get much past 3ghz anyway
<10> the epox board is a champ.
<10> in fact based on my reading the epox tends to be a little less picky about ram
<10> it's a damn stable board.
<3> oh yea
<3> I can tell you that's definite
<3> DFI does not like certain ram
<9> a better card for that guy
<3> http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=86385&highlight=cacje
<3> CACJE 0546 APAW - 3008 Mhz - 1.584v AIR - Benny Lodewijk
<10> i've been using epox stuff for years so I really didn't feel like I should of switched
<9> dual 4200 hundreds *Drools*
<10> I've got a friend running an x2 4400 at 3ghz per core
<3> http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=87046&highlight=cacje
<3> hah he did a suicide at 1.7
<10> that's some nice ****. :D
<3> for 3.2 ghz
<6> suicide shots are stupid
<9> whats that?
<1> ah u guys lost me there :|
<9> suicide shots?
<6> like oc cpu just enough to get into windows and take screenshot
<6> even if it isn't stable
<1> back to my problem... why would someone choose say amd over p4... why u like opteron amd over a p4
<1> wats the benefits over amd over p4. in terms of video editing / multimedia
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