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<0> hmm..fish tanks need to be changed every once and a while, just like cars
<0> but I guess this uses a different conceptual model?
<1> thats because fish crap, and cars get all sorts of crap in the system
<2> yes
<2> ENTIRELY different.
<1> a expensive enough system fully sealed will not need to be changed
<0> ..how expensive?
<2> doesnt need to be expensive.
<2> at all.
<1> on cars it does :P
<2> oh
<2> well, that may be so
<2> but I'm talking computers :P
<3> in my experience, things just need to be done right and water loops can last up to a few years without maintenance
<0> if I don't have to worry about maintenance, and fear of leaking - from moving the case around, etc
<0> don't the plastic tubes degrade?
<1> use distilled water, and some kill switch should it leak
<3> you must ensure you leak test with the setup before puttin it into a pc for at least 24 hours
<0> oh yeah obviously jipped
<2> not if you use good ****
<2> like tygon or clearflex tubing
<3> RogerRabb: the tubes dont really degrade as much as they might permeate a tiny bit of water
<0> what kind of price would I be running?
<3> just gotta make sure the res is nice and full and you shouldnt even need to top it off in the few years its up
<3> just a cpu block?
<0> umm, cpu and gpu I guess
<3> id say between 150 and 200
<0> possibly adding another gpu in the future
<0> but unlikely
<3> gpu blocks are like 35 to 50 bux
<0> would I need to rip the mobo out, or are there ones which I can litterally just fit into a normal 939 plastic socket?
<3> you would need to remove the motherboard
<3> im pretty sure
<2> that depends
<2> very heavily
<2> on the block you get.
<3> there may be some wierd block I dont know about
<2> and uhm
<2> it depends how much you are into DIY ****
<2> if you do most of the stuff yourself
<2> you can do a water system VERY cheap.
<0> basically I don't have enough free time to do diy on it
<0> with full time work + projects on the side
<2> hang on
<2> got a link for you
<0> thanks
<1> I am going to attempt a DIY oil computer and possibly ivolve a minifridge and heatpipes or something soon
<1> I'll just experiment on a P3 or something
<2> hm
<2> I've been talking about one of those lately ;P
<2> did the preliminary tests and then got involved in other ****
<2> RogerRabb: http://www.zalman.co.kr/eng/product/view.asp?idx=160&code=021
<2> I usualy dont like **** like that
<2> but its seriously sweet, and works VERY well.
<2> and its silent.
<0> should mention I don't care how it looks inside - I loathe windows, and flashy lights frustrate me to no end
<0> ah...nah..needs to be internal
<2> dude
<2> why?
<2> that thing is sweet.
<2> its piss easy to install/set up
<2> no maintenance
<2> and its SILENT.
<3> ive heard they work pretty decent but I wouldn't want something outside my pc either
<2> you guys are weird
<4> and what is the total expense for that ?
<3> :)
<2> twunty, do I look like newegg to you? go price it.
<3> heheh
<4> yeah found it for 229 that is nice system for that
<2> I'm pretty sure you can get them signifigantly cheaper than that
<2> but yeah
<1> I reason, if the computer is submered under oil, running heatpipes to a freezer and back will not cause undo condensation, as its under oil and not in the air
<4> i have a socket 478 p4 3.2extreme, that i can clock up to 3.8 where it is unstable, so i leave it around 3.6
<1> might have to seal the top, so no condenstation can form just before going under the oil
<2> Langly1, heatpipes are totally unnecesary
<1> or I could jsut stick the whole thing in a freezer
<1> RuKK I am going to see how low I can go
<2> you wont be able to go lower than about -15c
<1> Aiming for single digit c
<2> unless you intend to install heaters in the oil as well.
<2> ahh, that shouldnt be hard.
<0> I don't want a reservoir like that under my desk which I could potentially knock over
<0> or my cat could knock over
<1> I had my p4 1.3 at 9c this winter by having it in the garage
<0> and if I move the case, there's another thing I have to lug around with it
<0> so, definitely not an option
<0> I'm not about trying to get the lowest temps around, I just want silence
<0> and that case is definitely big enough to put in a system
<5> u guys r gay pcz r mad to be hot so let them be...
<1> They should run a computer outside in antartica and see what temp they can get :P
<5> hehe
<3> AMDMan: pcs were not made to be hot
<5> HDD would freeze up
<5> those metal barings would freeze in like 3 mins
<0> http://www.hardwareluxx.de/Images/LianLi/V2000/06010037.jpg to give you an indication on room RuKK
<6> cheap aircooling ftw
<6> do you want your pc to sound like a fishtank, or a RACECAR!
<5> where u put the MOBO
<2> haha
<7> haha
<7> no ****
<0> preferably quieter than a fish tank FiFtyKPS
<7> my pc is too loud
<7> sounds like a harley
<3> that case is huge
<0> it goes in upside down AMDMan
<7> one thing tho
<7> the metel wheels on the gl*** table = bad idea.
<5> What??? upside down wtf u mean by that im confused
<0> not my picture.
<3> its backwards and upside down
<0> that's the case I've ordered..should be here in a few days - but that picture was just to illustrate that if i did go the water cooling route (because of noise) I should have plenty of room
<3> i have the smaller version of that case and its pretty nice
<3> ive got all my watercooling in it
<0> how much did that water cooling set you back?
<3> it was like 220 I think but I went with super nice stuff
<3> its my 4th setup
<6> 220... you got jipped
<3> :)
<6> a fan only costs 20 bucks
<3> i do it for fun :)
<0> ever had to do any maintenance on it - changing water etc?
<3> its a hobby
<6> nice
<3> ive not changed or added water yet and its been like 5 months
<6> i would definitatly go water cooling if i had the cash
<3> water level still looks really good
<0> hmm..feel like linking me to the parts you got jipped?
<3> sure, sec
<1> whoa, I just read FiFtyKPS as FPSkitty some how
<0> thanks
<6> dyslexic much?
<8> lo again :)
<1> on
<6> haha
<1> :P
<1> Figured that would be the funny answer
<8> Langly1 speks the proper queens england
<1> Huh? and just how do I do that?
<6> rwiote
<1> FiFtyKPS, in engrish please.
<8> waht I fnid inrtetsnig is if the fsirt and lsat letetrs are in plcae it's stlil qiute esay to raed.
<6> (engrish)ok(engrish)
<6> hey, that's pretty nifty
<8> says something about the way we read
<8> anyone watch "House" here?
<6> never heard of it
<6> that some brit show?
<8> no it's US but brit lead actor
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