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<0> otherwise its a hub no?
<1> i dont think all routers have built in firewalls
<2> A network hub is simply a repeater.
<0> cool well whats one with out one?
<2> I'm not sure what you mean.
<2> My networking knowledge is rather sad, but my understanding of a router is that it contains it's own ip address and NAT. A firewall is optional.
<2> So a hub or a switch run through a computer which is running a NAT service = router. I think.
<0> yea techniqly im sure thats right but ive never seen a router with out "firewall type " settings
<2> Ya, it seems a lot of home routers contain firewall software.
<3> a router uses layer 3 to route traffic while a hub uses layer 2
<3> layer 2 is all broadcasts, so every request made by every device is sent to all computers
<3> a router uses routing table to ***ociate mac address to ips
<3> after a machine broadcasts once, the router learns the IP, then routes future traffic for that device by ip
<2> Doesn't a switch also use a table?
<3> thus increasing transmit time and decreasing bandwidht
<3> yes
<2> Can you define what a networking layor is simply, or is this the sort of thing that only a big book can explain? :)
<4> what do i need to do if a pc reads astick of memory reads as 128 but its really 512
<3> difference bewteen a router and a switch is that the router allows you to take traffic from multiple networks and p*** them
<2> AMDMan: What's the age on the mb?
<3> there are 7 layers
<5> AMDMan reinstall windows xp
<2> Juxt: Does it do that through NAT?
<3> each layer adds information to the headers of the data
<4> Whats the age of Mobo or MB
<5> reinstall AMDMan
<2> Cameleon: I do not believe that would solve the problem.
<5> I had the same problem
<4> ok
<4> thnx
<3> the higher up the ip stack (layers) you go, the more information is contained in it
<4> will do now
<2> AMDMan: Of the motherboard.
<4> old as hell
<4> first mobo ever made
<4> lol
<3> no, NAT is something different
<3> NAT = network address translation
<2> Then that could be the problem, what socket is it AMDMan?
<3> the explanation for that is a bit longer
<2> Juxt: Yes. I ***umed that a router used NAT to translate between Network A and Network B.
<3> and wide spread
<4> not sure Hoe
<0> amdman some mobos cant take high decity ram right?
<2> AMDMan: What sort of processor sits on the board?
<3> Hoe: NAT is not required to do that though
<0> hah whoops dencity or somthing likethat
<6> you guys know of any moble phone game download places?
<3> NAT is used on firewalls to hide the IPs of internal systems
<2> I recall an old p2 board I had, the manual said "This board has not been tested with 128mb or 256mb ram sticks because they are still experiemental"
<3> and block inbound traffic to them
<2> Juxt: I'm not fully sure how it understands that inbound packet from Network A x.x.x.x goes to y.y.y.y on Network B.
<3> you tell it that through specific statments
<3> "statics"
<3> it's just like when you move
<2> I thought that it was transparent to the network protocol?
<3> your post office slaps on a new yellow label
<3> and forwards it to your new address
<3> same principal
<3> i gotta run though
<3> see ya
<2> Indeed.
<7> hi
<8> I want a list of proxy servers with different IP addresses and domain names, do I usually have to pay money for that or are there lists available
<1> there are free proxys available, most **** but you find the odd good one
<4> proxies are free
<4> find ones in JP
<1> www.proxy4free.com i belive the site is
<4> domain names are lil harder tho i dont know about those
<4> use a hackin tool and start scanning ip ranges
<4> and hope that port is open that gives you the domaim name
<4> exploit
<5> make your own proxy
<5> buy a shell
<5> and run a proxy server on it just for you
<5> tada!
<5> stupid ****ers
<9> got a shell
<9> which proxy server to use
<9> ?
<10> ?
<0> why do you need proxies?
<11> !
<9> deep paranoia
<0> for www surfing?
<0> or irc?
<0> for irc you setup bouncers for www just use secure-tunnel.com free browser box
<7> does my cooler look big in this? http://di.cx/gallery/computers/stu_d50_080306_008
<2> Na, it's only the size of the power supply.
<7> i just hope the psu fits
<7> i think it will JUST fit
<7> the case JUST fits too.
<7> i'm going to cut a 120mm hole in the top of the case
<12> anyone here have pinnacle 10?
<0> i have pinnacle 8 when it was still good
<13> if i boot without any hds at all, should i still se the boot, bios, post-screen thing?
<2> Yes.
<2> It will finally just stall and say "No system disk" or some thing to that effect. It should get up to when you'd usualy start to see the Windows crap.
<13> i was afraid you should say that ;)
<0> fresh install?
<0> er build..
<13> nah
<0> overclock?
<13> nope
<2> RAM, video, cpu with heatsink/fan, power?
<2> And did you plug in the 2x2 12vDC aux power cable into the mb?
<9> junky old athlon with random memory?
<13> well.. heres the story.
<13> i wasusing remote desktop earlier today to access mt computer
<13> when i all of a sudden got disconnected
<13> and i thought, maybe it just randomly rebooted itself
<13> but i got home and discoverd that wasn't the case ;)
<0> ****
<13> i've tried to switch gfxcard, unplugg all drives, disconnect the memory
<2> Tried removing the cards?
<0> diff psu?
<13> but the fans run and all
<0> oh
<2> I've seen a bad NIC cause **** more then once.
<13> it's a P4
<13> the thing is, when i got home, something was making a "funny" sound
<0> currupt bios? try reseting the bios/cmos thing?
<0> funny sounds always bad
<2> If the cmos checksum fails, it will auto-default it.
<13> kinda semi-beeping (i dont have a pcspekaer)
<13> but i couldnt really determine where it came from
<2> What sort of psu?
<13> but after i disconnected all the drives the sound was gone.
<13> antec
<13> not that old, a year or so
<13> i gonna try to reset the bios
<13> but i wanted to make sure that i should be able to boot without harddrives
<9> yep
<13> is it possible to boot without memory?
<9> not AFAIK
<13> atleast se the initial loading of the gfxcard
<9> maybe
<2> Nope, need memory.
<13> okey
<13> hate this kinda errors. ;)
<9> sounds like the P/S, though Antec is usually a good brand
<9> gl
<13> but the fans run as usual
<9> could have lost the 5v, the 12v, one of those busses
<13> what are the odds of the CPU breaking down?
<9> slim if the fan there is still going
<13> k. well. gonna try to clear cmos now, and maybe i get back to you ;)
<9> good luck
<13> tanks for the help
<12> lol anyone here with pinnacle 10?
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