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<0> to see how hot its getting?
<1> http://www.biostar-usa.com/mbdetails.asp?model=nf4ul-a9
<1> vrm?
<1> video card was reporting 60 degrees & ambient 42 degrees
<1> don't have a program for cpu temp atm cause I don't know what works with this motherboard yet
<0> voltage regulation module.
<0> looks from the pic like that board has 3 phase power. probably gets hot as all hell.
<0> poke your fingers in there and see how toasty those mosfets get when your gaming or somesuch
<0> plus theres atleast 3 likely candidates on the far side of the dimms, and another one infront of the "xgp" slot.
<1> ummm
<1> which is what? :-)
<2> so what did you upgrade to |slurpee?
<1> just the ICs then?
<0> ok, click the pic in that link you gave me so you can see something
<0> see where the 4 pin connector goes in?
<0> see the little black squares all around it?
<0> two sets above, one set below?
<0> those are voltage regulators
<1> ah ook
<0> and the cylindrical things around them are capacitors (filters)
<0> now, as far as measuring the temp of them
<0> your pain threshhold is around 65-75 celcius
<0> thats too hot.
<0> so - the rule of thumb for voltage regulators being - much like *** - if it hurts, it may be a problem.
<1> ok, I'll test that out tomorrow... I'm going to test 1 stick then another tomorrow
<1> sinec I have to drag it out of this room to work on it
<1> for tonight I'm just going to try tweaking the timing... I was told I can't really fry the ram by having the timing wrong? all I can do is bluescreen the machine? just timing... I won't touch voltage at all
<0> nothing wrong with touching the voltage
<0> bump it up a few notches
<0> keep it under 3v and you'll be fine.
<0> 2.8v or so is perfect.
<1> ok... the ram docs says it wants 2.6
<0> yeah, give it more.
<1> ok
<1> back in 10
<0> your working with consumer grade crap here, keep that in mind.
<0> **** fluctuates. it dips.
<1> heh
<1> ok
<0> you want to overvolt for some semblence of stability.
<1> I'll go put those in right now
<0> friend****.
<0> heh
<0> what a wonderful handle.
<0> one of the greatest pleasures of life is making your own milkshakes
<0> I am convinced of this.
<0> knowing that this delicous, creamy substance that fills your mug with all its subtle little aftertastes and hints of cinammon, ginger, banana, orange, maybe a dash of vanilla.. this glorious concoction is by your own making
<0> one can never be satisfied with a mcshake again.
<1> nope jumping the voltage up didn't help.. also changed Cas# latency from 2.5 to 3
<1> cpu is reading 41 degrees right now according to bios
<0> what power supply do you have?
<1> 430 watt
<0> brand?
<1> antec
<0> HEH
<1> ?
<0> antec psu, biostar board, probably pqi ram or something, more than likely a maxtor hard drive and a evga video card..
<1> transcend ram seagate hdds & yes evga vid
<0> what is this, "how much questionable crappy hardware can we stuff in one case"?
<0> it could be ****ing anything.
<0> get a multimeter and check the power supply's 12v, 5v and 3.3v, for starters.
<1> well so far the biostar works better then the asus I had did :-p
<0> thats not surprising.
<0> asus are incredibly hit and miss.
<1> yet everyone says they're top...
<0> biostar are predictably middle of the line.
<0> bull****.
<0> asus are the biggest problem boards after ECS.
<0> and trust me, I work on enough of them to know.
<1> meh.... I dunno... I went around asking ppl on recomendations & asus was most recomended. my best board so far has been a soyo
<0> yeah, soyo are ****ing awesome
<1> I had an ecs... it ran ok no major probs but nothing great either
<0> yeah, you got lucky.
<1> 2 asus died however
<0> heh yeah
<1> this biostar seems highly configurable
<1> except.. ram problem,,,
<1> ...
<0> usualy they dont just up and die.. they just **** to a level where they are useless as a internet machine.
<0> run memtest86
<0> and next time
<0> buy a goddamn sparkle or fortran psu
<0> not a wannabe AC psu :|
<0> and if you want to know what I meant by that
<0> try taking a oscilliscope to the 12v rail of a antec some time.
<1> heh... those scopes are expensive aren't they? :-p
<0> yes :(
<0> I'm waiting for a little portable one to come up on ebay.
<0> for a decent price :\
<1> sparkle hey? went with the antec cause it was 430 wats & has the swapable power plugs coming out of the psu
<0> then I can add it to the fix0rage kit.
<1> I could have gone a 400 sparkle & just your normal umm
<0> sparkle/super flower/fortran
<1> 4 pin big power connectors
<0> yeah
<1> forget what they're called
<0> or if you want to shell out
<0> enermax or pc power & cooling
<0> and if anybody mentions OCZ I'm gonna have me a lynchin.
<1> never heard of them
<0> great.
<1> ok
<1> & after that random reboot
<1> tonight it stays as 333 till I can check each sitck tomorrow
<0> oh
<0> its stable at 333?
<0> I missed that part
<1> ya
<1> even though it's 400
<1> or at least labled as such :-p
<0> ahhhh
<0> :)
<1> haven't had a crash once in 333 & memtest liked it at that speed
<0> and how much did you turn up the voltage?
<1> haven't tested at 400 yet since crashes = bad
<1> dunno.. I changed it from "default" to 2.8
<1> I have options of "default" 2.7, 2.8, 2.9
<0> go up to 2.9
<0> set the timings to like, 3-3-3-8
<0> and command rate to 2t if its a option
<1> optionts I have are cas# latency, min ras# active time, ras# to cas# delay , row precharge time & row to row delay
<1> in that order on the screen...
<0> so go relaxe them a bunch, crank the voltage.
<0> you may have just gotten bunk memory
<0> transcend isnt exactly a great brand
<1> no? I thought they were = to sandisk
<0> or, you know, it could be the crappy psu outputting unstable voltages, and the crappy voltage regulation on the motherboard isnt doing much of a job of filtering it.
<0> and sandisk are wonderful memory makers?
<1> *shrug* they're all you can buy around here for cameras... that or buy a sony & get sony memory sticks
<1> usually that's a good indicator :p
<0> er, yeah, flash memory != ddr.
<1> mmm.... so settings I had in order were 2.5, 8, 3, 3, 3
<1> by relax you mean make it more like 3, 9, 4, 4, 4 ?
<0> sure.
<1> ok back in a min
<3> happy bday to me :)
<2> A year closer to death! :) How old are you?
<1> ok testing now
<1> I'll give it an hour of bf2 & see... last time it crashed about half hour mark
<1> nope
<1> so back to 333 I go for the night
<0> I just know this is one of you..
<0> http://img309.imageshack.us/img309/1769/computerguy6xv.jpg
<0> admit it.
<4> ****er
<4> you should warn :<
<0> sorry.. I didnt think the sensitive eyes of a woman would be up at this ungodly hour ;P
<4> time zones!
<0> yes
<0> and in other news.. he has hair.. on his back.. >_>
<4> :||||||||
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