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<0> whens that due to come out
<1> it was the m2 then they renamed it am2
<2> I thought there was an opteron with 1mb cache on each core, but I guess it's shared
<3> WITHOUT regged ddr requirements :p
<4> am2 is using a different pinout
<5> summer
<6> June'ish.
<4> cruel :(
<0> 'cos i was considering building a dual twin-core opteron system, but i guess it'd be a better idea to wait?
<0> something for Vista
<2> I honestly haven't been keeping up on hardware everysince I started playing WoW
<2> that game is a ****ing timesink I tell you
<1> ****
<3> dually opty's come in socket 940 as well...
<4> im sure it is
<2> ever since



<1> i gotta go study
<6> ya, but the am2 and the opteron 940 arn't compatable.
<3> heh last i played wow (started again week before last) i was on a 9800pro@xt
<0> that's what i'm thinking
<0> whats the purpose of ths M2 socket?
<6> stu: DDR2.
<2> I'm playing on a 9600pro
<2> plays it real nice
<7> ChinaBox what video card to get for less than $300 and ideally in the $200 range!
<0> isnt ddr2 currently in use?
<4> i play guild wars on a 6600
<2> even in Molten Core with 40+ people
<4> it plays real nice
<3> switched to 6800u soon after i started then down to a 6600gt... now with a 7800gt.. n o t h i n g lags
<3> 7800gt!
<2> but the 2gigs of ram is what makes it so SMOOOOTH
<3> JohanPetr 7800gt hands down
<4> gah
<2> Memory Usage: (Usage: 551/2048MB (26.90%)) (|||||||||||||-------------------------------------)
<4> +1 for e-penis flapping contests
<3> (RAM) usage: 594/2047MB (29.02%)
<6> stu: Currently no AMD chip supports DDR2.
<7> ChinaBox which manufacturer
<2> such a good upgrade from 512mb
<3> JohanPetr cheapest :) evga/leadtek
<7> ChinaBox is this card quiet?
<3> on a leadtek myself
<2> leadtek are REALLY nice
<0> Hoe``: so it's currently intel only?
<2> I've owned a few and have had no problems
<6> stu: Correct.
<3> no 7800gt's except vga silencer equipped ones are (asus top models)
<2> and they are great with RMAs and warranty issues
<0> Hoe``: will new chips come out then quickly for the new socket?
<0> thats a silly question :)
<3> stock nvidia fan is... uhm... not insane but not silent
<7> how much are video card fans?
<6> stu: I ***ume that the processors will be available shortly after the motherboards.
<3> nv silencers run about 20-30$
<3> newegg shoudl carry them
<3> should*
<0> Hoe``: is the main change the memory bus then?
<0> i guess its worth waiting
<6> stu: To my knowledge, yes.
<0> i feel a bit sick about spending $2k on cpu's :)
<7> ARCTIC COOLING AVC-NV5R3 NV Silencer Rev.3 - Retail ?
<3> link pwease :)
<3> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811200025 oh lookie its the NOKIA PC CASE!
<7> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835186133
<8> hey
<8> anyone around?
<3> lots
<8> hi
<8> i hope this question isn't too frivolous, but comparatively speaking how fast is the Celeron M 1.4 ghz? is that comparable to a deksto pm pentium 4 at ... 2.4ghz?
<3> 2.4ghz northwood.. hell no.... 2.4ghz willamette.. sure :D
<3> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811148001 damn why cant i order from newegg.. i want that... just for fun
<8> yes, i mean the willamette
<8> let's see what that is from newegg
<8> CHina, are you familiar with the t-bird 1.33ghz?
<8> that's what i have on my desktop now



<8> how does the celeron M compare to that??
<7> what kind of fan setup should i get for my computer
<3> faster
<2> the good old tbirb
<3> not by much tho
<8> what kind of box are YOU running?
<3> have to consider the newer tech in the cel m tho
<8> i've got a third 1.33ghz / 1.5 gig / 400gb
<2> damn
<3> x2 3800+ in this rig a64 3700+ in the other
<3> intel = junk atm
<7> ChinaBox how is the 3700
<2> some of the mobile intels are nice
<7> and how do you cool it
<3> but thats just my opinion.. wont make people buy either :)
<3> using a north q gismo zalman ripoff
<3> the x2.. is at 23c.. with watercooling :o
<8> very nice
<8> what kind of laptop do u have?
<3> how warm the 3700+ is ... dunno dun care.. it plays wow for 18 hours straight no problem
<6> That's a few steps above the t-bird, no? :P
<3> i dont buy laptops.. its against my religion... if i cant upgrade everything in it... its evil
<3> i wanna build a htpc tho... but socket 479 mobo's cost a ****LOAD
<6> My room mate runs a t-bird I put together for him off of random parts. It plays Guild Wars and Quake 3 well, so he's happy.
<3> so that rules out celle M's or dothans ;)
<9> if i get an ASRock mboard, it doesnt come with a floppy drive but i need to install my SATA_Raid drives 'n such - how do i do that?
<3> ofcourse a asus p4p 800 with a converter would do the trick nicely
<3> use a floppy drive
<9> a usb ?
<9> im saying if it doesnt have an IDE spot for a floppy
<3> that works... or a usb pendrive with the drivers on it
<3> :O a mobo with no floppy connector HURRAY!
<9> :)
<3> only 12 years late
<3> heh
<7> ChinaBox does the 3700 come with a fan and thermal paste?
<3> if you buy it boxed it does
<6> If you buy retail.
<7> is it sufficient?
<6> Ones marked OEM wount.
<7> it's Retail
<3> and yes it has paste.. but its onetime paste :)
<7> hmm
<7> shud i get arctic silver?
<3> once its on you cant just take it off and slap it back on
<3> nah
<3> not if you arent planning on taking it off again
<7> well will this one-time paste last 5 years?!
<7> what if i mess up applying it!
<3> no amd warranty says 3 :p
<3> paste only sticks once it heats
<3> and no touching it before applying either.. hence why it comes covered with a plastic shell
<3> uhhhh ati is buying XGI
<3> coolness
<3> guess we get to see dual/quad gpu gfx cards from ati in the future :D
<7> ChinaBox how hot does your 3700 run with the stock paste and fan
<3> no clue
<3> as i said dont care as long as it runs :)
<3> case is well ventilated tho
<3> tho tiny
<7> my current cpu is running at 140 degrees fahrenheit
<0> thats an issue isnt it
<3> with 0 case cooling most likely.. or badly configured case cooling
<10> anyone have the misfortune of owning a dell?
<6> zerox: I used one at work for a bit.
<6> And I've repaired a pile of thouse jigsaw puzzles.
<7> ChinaBox what is a good configuration of case cooling
<3> more out than in ofcourse
<3> so say you have 4 spots for 80mm fans 2 should be in and 2 should be out (psu counts as out as well)
<7> ChinaBox where on the case should these spots for 80mm fans be?
<6> The ones on the front should be in, the back should be out. Air pressure should be about equal, if not, negative.
<7> front?!
<6> Yes, front.


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