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<RuKK> http://www.newegg.com/Product/CustRatingReview.asp?DEPA=0&Type=&Item=N82E16820146545&SortField=0&Pagesize=50&Page=
<DC91P> 549
<DC91P> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820146549
<namp> thats wierd, the 1 gig sticks of crucial are $83. so for 2 sticks it would be $166... but for the 2 gig kit its $185. thats a 20 dollar price difference
<RuKK> I have no idea about the ballistix.
<RuKK> never used it personally.
<RuKK> and btw, ddr gets highly unreliable once you p*** the pc3200 range in general.
<RuKK> unless your overvolting the hell out of samschlong TCCD or winbond bh5 or bh6 chips.
<dlion> they dont even make 1gig chips with bh5
<dlion> or do they?
<RuKK> I think mushkin did for a little while. m***ively expensive though
<RuKK> kinda sad I sold my 2x256 of crucial bh5 :x
<namp> someone tell me the difference betweeb these 2 pieces of memory
<namp> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820146575
<RuKK> that was sweet ram. did 250mhz 2-2-2-11
<namp> and
<b***goon> I love how people say high speed wifi (240mbps) is a waste without gigabit ethernet ports on the wap
<namp> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820146545
<b***goon> I mean, wifi with wep or wpa has SO much overheard
<b***goon> overhead
<RuKK> namp, nothing. the one is just two sticks included.
<namp> but look at the price
<dlion> 250 at 2-2-2? thats unlikely
<dlion> maybe 2.5
<namp> isnt that wierd......?
<RuKK> dlion, unlikely, sorta. but thats why you buy bh5 :x
<dlion> even bh5
<namp> Rukk: you see the prices between them?
<RuKK> namp, not really. the whole "dual channel kit" thing is total BS for the purpose of pwning prices.
<dlion> thats unlikely
<RuKK> yes namp.
<RuKK> dlion, unlikely with under 3v.. but with 3.4v.. :)
<RuKK> and about 3 weeks of burnin which increased that clock from about 240mhz to 250mhz.
<namp> so i would be better buying the the 2 single sticks rather than the kit of the 2 sticks?
<dlion> thats some pretty bad*** ram
<RuKK> do the math namp.
<RuKK> dlion, yep.
<RuKK> also, it was 2x256. which helps the clocks ALOT.
<dlion> oh yeah, forgot about smaller size ;p
<RuKK> so much less load on the memory's vreg than 2x512.
<RuKK> my best clock with 1024mbs was about 230mhz 2-2-2-11, and that was with a beefed up vreg.
<RuKK> all sticks involved were bh5, and all could do 240mhz+ individualy.
<RuKK> *sigh* overclocking is so boring these days :|
<namp> whats this ddr2 400 memory about?
<RuKK> namp, its 240 pin ddr2.. the new cheap **** heh
<namp> ok so stay away from it?
<RuKK> you cant use it.
<namp> no?
<benjr_> would someone be able to suggest a system to me if i were to explain what i use my pc for? i only have a limited budjet
<RuKK> hmm, dothans are interesting.
<RuKK> but computers are boring me right now >_>
<acx> !commands
<acx> if a mobo has 2 x pci-e slots, and the first is blocked by heatsink, can video card work fine in the 2nd ?
<DC91P> i wouldn't like that situation
<RuKK> acx, yes it can.
<acx> reason I ask is, I was going to get a dfi lanboy mobo over an Asus, but the heatsink I have would block the 1st pci-e in the dfi only. Is one mobo better then other?
<RuKK> I would probably get the dfi, although the heatsink thing is dumb.
<dlion> asus and dfi both make awesome 939 boards
<dlion> and i don't see how the p***ive cooling is dumb
<RuKK> p***ive cooling rocks. the fact that it blocks off a pci-e is dumb.
<SvX> what p***ive cooler does that?
<dlion> hmm you atlking about the 16x pcie?
<acx> the cooler is an thermalright x-120
<b***goon> xp-120
<dlion> i have xp-120
<SvX> p***ive cooler means it just gets absorbed by the air? and active cooler means it has something running to push air away right?
<dlion> works fine on my a8n32, and worked fine on my a8n premium as well
<SvX> if pci-e is so much better than pci and pci-x then how come there is like nothing for it
<dlion> you are talking about 1x?
<dlion> im talking about 16x
<dlion> there aren't many things that exceed the limits of standard pci
<dlion> only things are like raid controllers, which that have 1x pci-e for..
<SvX> but pci-e x1 is still better :-P
<acx> DFI LANPARTY UT nF4 Ultra-D 939 thats the mobo in which the first slot would be blocked
<SvX> I just bought http://www.aerocool.us/p-cooler/vm-101/vm101.htm
<dlion> thats like saying usb 2.0 is better, when you are just hooking up a keyboard
<SvX> its the only thing that doesn't take up a slot to the right of my pci card
<RuKK> hmm
<acx> so just to clear it up, a video card will work just as well in the 2nd pci-e slot as the 1st
<dlion> yes it should acx
<RuKK> just double check they are both 16x slots, one isnt 4x or 2x or something.
<RuKK> sometimes they do that and its annoying.
<dlion> aren't 4x and 2x a different phsycial length?
<RuKK> they are supposed to be, but theres no reason you cant use a 16x size slot and run it at 8x, 4x, 2x or 1x.
<benjr_> Im looking for a new pc that will run under linux, i (mainly) use my pc for web development, programming and multimedia. Any hardware reccomendations?
<Jingles> yadda yadda X2, nforce 4.
<dlion> ben, anything old ;p
<acx> # 2 PCI Express x16 slots
<acx> # 1 PCI Express x1 slot
<acx> # 1 PCI Express x4 slot
<acx> # 2 PCI slots
<acx> has 2 x 16.. so seems it would be fine to block the first
<Jingles> the generic answer to anything at the moment should be X2/nforce 4. unless the question mentions being poor.
<benjr_> i got a p3 500, 128 ram, 32mb geforece2 right now, its far to slow
<dlion> yeah, that sounds like a pile of ****
<RuKK> he does NOT need a x2 and nforce4 for development, programming and multimedia.
<benjr_> well im a college student so yeha im not very rich
<dlion> i think ANYTHING would be a signifigant upgrade from that
<RuKK> go grab a sempron, nforce2 and 2x1gb of some decent pc3200.. stick a 6600gt or something in that.
<RuKK> I just built a 2.4ghz barton system for like $400.
<dlion> 2.4ghz?
<RuKK> yes.
<Jingles> well most of us dont NEED it for what we do, but its sure nice to do things faster
<dlion> must be overclocked and have some used parts right?
<RuKK> everythings used but the video card :)
<RuKK> and yes
<RuKK> its a 2800+ barton that got the trace pen.
<benjr_> arnt semprons just like celerons? will they be any good for compliing etc
<RuKK> no, semprons are like athlons. same chip.
<dlion> semprons are not bad
<dlion> only less cache
<RuKK> amd just decided to take thoroughbreds and rename them semprons.
<dlion> whereas celerons are less cache and less buss speed
<benjr_> would i notice a difference withdual channel ram?
<dlion> even so... a sempron is gonna be like 5x+ faster than what you have now
<RuKK> benjr_, depends on the chipset.
<RuKK> with a athlon64 (k8) chip, yes. bigtime.
<RuKK> with a athlon (k7) sempron/barton/thorton.. no.
<benjr_> its not just a novilty for gamers?
<_nerp> no
<RuKK> not for a athlon64 based system
<_nerp> dual channel is important
<RuKK> for k7 rigs, its a waste of time for the most part.
<RuKK> it gives you maybe 5-10% memory bandwidth increase.
<RuKK> which turns into like, 3-4% real world speed increase..
<RuKK> meaning NOTHING.
<benjr_> that 3-4% with a k7 or 64?
<RuKK> k7
<RuKK> 64 will be m***ive increase.
<benjr_> rams my big bottlneck right now i think
<benjr_> whne i swtich applications i see the app get draw onto the screen
<DC91P> in linux?
<acx> "AMD Athlon 64 3800+" and "AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ 939 Dual Core" The duel core is only a little more expensive... is it worth the extra $?
<b***goon> YES
<b***goon> but I'd go with an opteron 165 socket 939
<benjr_> i got dual boot linux/windows, windows is for my mulitmedia type stuff, thats where i see screen gettign redrawn
<b***goon> more bang for your buck acx
<DC91P> do you program in linux?
<benjr_> yes, althought i hardly call it programming, but im taking courses at college on it
<DC91P> ah
<benjr_> going to get a sperate mahcine to run as websever
<DC91P> then you're in the wrong field :p
<DC91P> i have the same problem with other subjects
<benjr_> i enjoy it even tho im not the best at it
<benjr_> im leanring more towards web langauges
<_nerp> DC91P discounting instruction is pretty rediculous
<_nerp> maybe fiddlign with computers will teach you a lot
<jadeN> if i put a 120mm rear case fan, and it's stick right next to the cpu heatsink fan, does that kinda defeat the purpose?? i think of it as the case fan ****ing the air away from the cpu fan to blow on the heatsink??
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