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<0> other players will step up to make up for him
<0> and play well
<1> because so far imo portugal is playing better than england
<2> i don't think any teams here are one man teams, so they'll still be tough
<0> yup
<1> but deco out worried me
<3> aussies got two standard saves from buffon, they did nothing
<1> i dont' want to put your country down though :)
<3> czech republic stretch buffon a couple of times
<3> ghana had some decent chances, but that italy went all out attack so that is expected
<1> but the england i seen playing so far and the portugal i seen playing so far, england should not be favorite
<1> its an even match impo
<1> imo
<0> but from the way the bookies see it, por have had rough games. england has just cruised, doing just enough
<3> england may be slight favourites considering portugal are missing players
<2> theyre all even i think these quarters, only shock would be a ukraine win



<1> true
<2> all the other games could go either way without being so shocking
<4> [FIFA World Cup 2006 Tournament News] Past masters helping today's hopefuls - http://us.rd.yahoo.com/FifaWC/rss/en/*http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/060629/1/8ecj.html
<1> imhotep yeh the missing playess thing makes england favorite imo
<1> only a ukr win would be shocking
<1> i guess france win a little
<3> but like i said, each game is an episode
<3> no such thing as shocks at this stage of the tournament
<1> i think fifa matchcast shows line up early
<1> i
<0> of course there is
<1> i will have to check it
<0> did you not watch 2002
<1> if i like the line up foro italy i wil go all in ;)
<3> we are in 2006
<0> south korea beating italy
<3> if france beats bbrazil is that a shock? no
<5> yes
<3> if germany beats argentina is that a shock? no
<2> no brazil havent been so good
<5> brazil should RAPE them
<5> :)
<0> i dunno
<0> depends on how they do
<1> italy put in a poor line up then too
<5> Im putting my money on brazil raping them
<5> (imo)
<1> if they do it tomrorow i will not bet extra
<5> rooney just got lucky that time
<0> i hope brazil beat them
<5> wont happen again
<0> lol
<2> oz looks well against brazil for alot of that game
<0> 73quid!
<3> brazil have many weaknesses, ghana, australia even croatia showed those weaknesses
<1> yeah
<3> all brazil need is a better team to put them away
<3> that could be france
<2> damn yeah a good forward thinking team could put a good few past brazil
<1> france can beat brazil, but brazil lis better
<1> arg and germ are better than brazil
<1> the world cup final is tomrorow morning
<3> for me the biggest suprise of the tournament has been germany
<1> argentina bs germany
<1> 2 best teams
<3> i was expecting nothing from them
<0> itll be 2:0 brazil i think
<3> but they are playing each game at 200mph
<0> france have huge mental problems
<1> rooney yeah
<2> germany havent played anyone good yet, so how can you say that cheeto
<0> they are like england, they jus go into a zone sometimes
<1> rooney it depends which franc plays
<1> brazil on most day swill beat them, but france on the right day can win
<0> yup
<2> germany have only looked good against pretty average teams
<0> itll be good for brazil, revenge for 98
<1> yeah i see italy, england and france like tha
<1> and brazil germany and argentina as more consistant
<0> semi's will be brazil vs [por/eng], italy vs argentina
<3> we'll see



<3> i put my money on france and germany for tonight :)
<3> uh and italy and portugal
<1> france is not tonight
<2> you'll lose on that portugal one, but the others don't sound that bad
<2> :P
<5> youll lose on all of them
<5> ukraine will win, argentina will win, brazil will win, and england will win
<0> 2 goals for rooney tommorow
<5> thats where id put my money (except on ukraine, i wouldnt put money there)
<2> ukraine would be a shock though
<5> im "hoping" for ukraine to win
<3> that might be true
<5> but its just wishful thinking
<3> anyone beating italy is a shock, right?
<3> :)
<5> i wouldnt bet on them thats for sure lol
<5> historically speaking
<5> ukraine should make it thru
<5> '94, Bulgaria went to semi's, had Hristo Stoichkov
<1> imhotep no not anyone
<3> perhaps in a parallel universe
<5> '98, Croatia went to semis, had Davor Suker
<1> but a small country yes
<2> it'll feel good if we could finally beat a scorlari team i know that, with the eng por game
<5> '02, turkey went to semis, had Hakan Sukur
<5> historically speaking
<5> '06, Ukraine go to semis, have Shevchenko
<5> hehehe
<0> yeah but that bracket was a joke last year col
<3> that turkey was good too
<5> im just sayin man
<3> who did they lose against int he semi?
<5> Croatia beat germany in 98
<0> germany did , paraguay->usa->skorea to get to the final
<0> lol
<5> in quarters
<3> i remember they played the better game
<5> and germany had like lothar mattheus
<5> and klinnsman
<2> croatia looked good back then
<0> how italy managed not to get to the final on that side is insane
<5> and Davor Suker was able to rally up the team
<5> and take them all the way
<5> well if Shevchenko can do that
<5> theyll make it
<5> :D
<1> italy has had coach problems the last few cups
<1> its corruption and politics
<1> they should hire an outsider so he can just coach
<3> what italy needs is a foreign coach.. god save the world should that happen
<1> too much ego to do it
<1> imhotep an example of the ego
<1> imhotep is an example of the ego
<4> [FIFA World Cup 2006 Tournament News] Six former winners in last eight - http://us.rd.yahoo.com/FifaWC/rss/en/*http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/060629/1/8ebm.html
<3> cheeto eh are you using me as an example? :)
<1> well u jumped in with that line, so it was a good example :)
<0> ukraine 7.8
<3> listen, italy have made the final of the world cup 7 out of 18 attempts so far
<3> so, you tell me if I shouldn't be a litle proud :)
<1> but u are arrogent
<3> and the 18th attempt is not over yet, we're in the middle of it ;)
<1> thats different
<2> theyre a fine football country, its just when they clearly play act and dive, it drives me nuts, i would punch del peiro for the dive he did against oz
<0> pride and arrogance is different
<1> yeah
<3> hey, when everyone disses on Italy, or your country, you too would defend it
<1> theNomad i hate playrs like delpiero he rahter dive for the set piece rahter htan go for the goal
<3> Nomad keeps talking about Italian's diving
<1> tahts why vieri was great, he would not let anyone knock him down
<3> but I have seen every team, even his precious england/beckham do it
<3> so don't single italy out!
<2> yeah i agree i'd defend my country dude
<0> it is different here imhotep, our players rarely do it as it is not accepted in our culture
<2> no i questioned even henry against spain the other day


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