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<0> :D
<1> haha
<1> this woman my mom knows was killed last night
<1> she was drunk, and decided to jump out of a van while it was moving
<1> her sister was driving a car behind the van, which ran her over.
<1> she was 32.
<2> omg thats real story ?
<1> yes!
<1> i laughed my *** off.
<1> wtf kind of moron jumps out of a moving vehicle?
<2> lol
<3> a moron that deserves to be dead
<1> seriously though
<1> one less idiot
<1> that's how i feel.
<1> i just wish more people would weed themselves out like that.
<2> my tux did it too
<2> and he is alive
<1> maybe he should try it again.
<2> i have
<2> supertux
<4> http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/08/30/gop.fascism.ap/index.html
<4> what is with all this flip flopping? :(
<4> http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/08/30/suv.rampage.ap/index.html
<4> I blame the debbil too
<5> User: ace Pasted http://pasteme.com/p.php?id=400
<1> the debbil!
<1> the debbil hacked my IE
<6> What exactly does the LABEL in fstab do?
<7> I AM WORKFLOW-ENABLED
<8> anyone use ACL?
<5> User: ace Pasted http://pasteme.com/p.php?id=401
<9> newbs
<0> Genia4: filesystem acl's?
<0> or apache, bind, imap, ... :)
<8> no, filesystem
<0> yeah i use them hehe
<9> i had a dream bout my mom.....
<8> dnshacker: how are they?
<8> do they completely replace posix permissions?
<4> Genia4: How are you?
<4> Access Control Lists?
<0> Genia4: well i use them on a few servers to make sure that customers cant access each others web logs but while apache still can etc, and i use them on my samba servers to implement windows 2003 active directory permissions
<0> and they work great in both cases :)
<0> no they dont replace posix permissions totally
<8> so what do they replace?
<0> but the acl is checked before the posix permissions
<4> oh filesystem ACLs
<4> chattr
<0> bitrot: thats attributes
<0> setfacl.
<4> oh that's right my bad
<4> what pkg has setfacl?
<4> I don't have that pkg
<0> sys-apps/acl
<4> and I can use this with reiserfs right?
<4> or ext3?
<0> not sure with reiserfs, havent used it in years. ext3 works if you mount with the acl option, xfs works out of the box
<4> bleh I didn't mount w/ the acl option
<4> i'll have to add it to /etc/fstab and reboot
<0> NO
<0> mount / -o remount,acl
<0> :)
<4> oh i can remount / ?
<0> sure
<4> damnit matja
<0> if you have acl support in your ext3 driver
<4> wtf is up with you and the many nicks
<4> i just built in what the kernel has
<0> im bored :(
<4> yay the ice chomper ape man is already grunting away
<0> well you need CONFIG_EXT3_FS_POSIX_ACL
<0> i dunno if its default
<0> CONFIG_REISERFS_FS_POSIX_ACL
<0> seems reiserfs can support them, too
<4> CONFIG_EXT3_FS_POSIX_ACL=y
<0> \o/
<4> CONFIG_EXT3_FS_XATTR=y
<0> teh win.
<4> it doesn't use some ****ed up default ACLs does it?
<0> no, nothing gets acl's by default
<4> so If I remount w/ the acl option 1/2 my services stop working lol
<4> k
<0> it uses the posix permissions you aleady have
<0> acl's go over the top
<4> ya
<4> acls -> posix perms right?
<0> yea
<0> if you do a ls -l, you get a plus sign next to the posix permissions
<0> indicating there are additional acl's
<0> its rather schweet
<4> woops
<4> lol
<4> don't add acl to /etc/fstab
<4> and then mount / -o remount,acl O.o
<8> so acl allows you to make files owned by multiple users and groups, right?
<4> /dev/hda2 on / type ext3 (rw,noatime,acl,acl)
<4> Lolz
<0> bitrot: should be fine o_o
<4> it is
<4> just redudant
<4> looks goofy w/ acl there twice O.o
<0> Genia4: well, all files only have one owner, but multiple users/groups can have different permissions
<0> as many different users/groups as you want
<0> if you just want to use acl access, just chown files to root and chmod them to 0
<8> is that wise?
<0> then just the acl's will determine the access level
<8> chown somefile root; chmod somefile 0; can root still read it?
<4> yeah
<0> in some situations it makes sense
<4> it's root lol
<4> can read anything
<8> read without running chown again
<4> yes it's root
<8> dnshacker: well, any reason why it wouldn't make sense?
<8> oh, new files created will still be owned by the user who created them
<4> yes
<8> so you'd have to keep everything chowned to root and chmodded
<0> well, in the situation where posix permissions make more sense :p
<0> theres a 'default' acl for directories, too
<4> I just use posix and have no problems lol
<4> I don't need some crazy perms though
<0> which the files in the directory inherit from
<4> yeah you can set that w/o the acls
<4> but would it set the user/group too?
<4> or just the permission bits?
<0> bitrot: ya, its useful when you need to allow multiple groups access to certain dirs
<0> like at work, people are given group membership depending on what projects they're working on
<0> and what they do (coding/art/producer/etc)
<4> yea
<0> i think it simplifies that kinda thing
<8> can something be owned by a user, plus a group he doesn't belong to?
<4> yeah
<4> yes
<0> yep
<4> you can have someone own a file
<4> and then have the users group not have access to it
<4> I do that w/ my array on my server lol
<4> so 700
<4> er 701
<8> but what if I want a whole group the user is not in, plus that user to have 7 on that file
<0> Genia4: if you use gnome, check out 'eiciel', its a acl plugin for nautilus
<0> seamless integration
<8> ok, I have a question
<0> http://rofi.pinchito.com/eiciel/gfx/shots/principal-0.9.png
<4> Genia4: so you chmod 770 the file and chown it user:diff_group
<4> the group can be different
<4> as long as the user owns the file he can read/write/excute with 7
<4> so would the diff_group
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