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<0> the computer will whirr and scream and stick out the CD-ROM tray and vomit CD's over you
<1> the best part is when the processor rotates in it's socket
<2> Yay, finally up and running
<2> Nothing like the clean install feeling
<2> So fresh and so clean...
<3> eic: Agreed
<3> I'll often backup my home dir and reinstall everything
<3> Keep my world file handy, clean it out, emerge everything in it again
<3> It always takes like half a week to get all your stuff perfect again though
<1> so that's why things are unraring so slowly
<1> I got a daemon that's doing heavy disk access too.
<2> Yeah, it takes a long time, blk_jack.
<2> I backed up / after I got the basic stuff configured/compiled
<2> So I don't have to do it again
<3> Oh, yea that's not a bad idea, except new packages come out all the time
<3> But I guess you can just upgrade from that, but you'll still be recompiling a lot of ****



<2> Yeah
<4> i hate when you ask a question but then answer it yourself
<2> But by basic, I mean, just base install ~x86 with x11
<2> So not too bad
<3> I upgrade xorg like every other week
<3> Modular xorg 7.X
<2> Me too no that I'm all ~x86'd
<3> ~x86 is pretty bad eh :)
<3> It's like frowned down on quite a bit these days
<3> I used to run ~x86 back in the day, but now I just use ~x86 to package.keywords for applications that I actually need bleeding edge
<4> blk_jack: gues devs expeirement a bit more these days?
<3> Obsidian: Sorry?
<4> they write code thats not stable
<4> a lot more often
<2> Its not _that_ bad
<3> Well all I know is that when I ran ~x86 I had a lot more problems than now
<3> and I do run a lot of bleeding edge applications now
<2> Do have to watch what you merge, though.
<4> eic: i mean the pre-release process is sped up, so it would seem
<4> so they can't squash all the bugs
<4> cuz people want stuff fast
<2> And I did have problems emerge -e world, but nothing I couldn't fix
<3> All my xorg stuff is ~x86, xgl, gstreamer, gtk, gaim, firefox, azureus, xchat, rhythmbox, totem, openoffice, gentoo-source, xfce4, evolution, mplayer, wine, bittornado, galeon, gimp, vmware, nvidia, etc
<2> Obsidian: yeah
<3> So I mean I run into problems
<3> But not nearly as much as when I had my ENTIRE system as ~x86 :)
<3> I'm a pretty "hardcore" desktop user.
<3> Unlike a large portion of so-called Gentoo "power users" who just basically use console for everything
<3> They're all crazy zealot console lovers and hate GUI
<3> Don't get me wrong, I use the shell for all my file management stuff and a lot more, but I don't run like my webbrowser/email/chat/etc in console
<2> Agreed
<3> I'd rather use rhythmbox than mpg123 ;)
<2> The console zealots are just nerds.
<3> Yea basically
<2> I've got a box that can handle pretty GUI's, I'm going to use it.
<3> Yea really
<3> xgl is so good
<2> It won't work for me, unfortunately.
<2> nvidia is still broken, I think.
<3> Broken?
<5> I got my ati card working in gentoo now!
<3> The newest drivers + newest xorg?
<3> I read up on that issue
<2> It doesn't work with mod-x, last I checked.
<3> But thing is, I run the latest nvidia, xorg, etc
<3> What's mod-x?
<2> Maybe they've fixed it
<2> modular xorg
<2> Oh, you use the binary drivers? It works?
<3> Yea
<3> Latest everything
<3> Do you run xgl?
<2> Ah, cool. I'll install 'em.
<3> Just make sure if you're not using xorg, to set RenderAccel = "false"
<2> I've got the latest xorg, but am just using nv.
<3> Or else you get that font issue everybody's crying about on the forums.
<2> Ok. Thanks
<2> Now why did xorg.conf have to go missing from /etc/X11...
<5> Do you guys recommend using the 64bit version of mozilla or 32?
<2> xorg-server blocks nvidia-glx still
<6> when I mount through samba and try to mv stuff over, however if I do one mv the speed is not the max, i have to do multiple mv simutaneously to get to the max speed of the line 100Mbps, what gives?



<7> during emerge gentoo-sources i get a file not found: genpatches-2.6.15-8.extras.tar.bz2 - is something broken?
<7> file seems not to exist on the servers
<8> chaps, simple question... is it possible to install raid1 in a live system to copy the disk that is about to die?
<7> nm. Going for vanilla sources
<9> anyone know of a way to edit quotas directly from the commandline without using an editor?
<9> i need to quickly set quotas on tons of account via a script
<10> sed
<11> hmm
<9> sed?
<10> man sed
<11> whats the line you want to add to the quotas file ?
<9> Dr0|A: the quotas file is in binary
<11> ah ok
<11> havent done quotas in ages
<9> BlkFury: can you give me an example?
<12> use edquota with a template user
<10> it's not a text file?
<12> -p
<9> thanks matja
<9> edquota -p doesn't seem to work on this box
<9> weird
<9> even if i specify the filesystem it just does nothing
<12> azure ~ # edquota -u -p towser jimbo
<12> azure ~ # repquota -u -a|egrep "(^towser|^jimbo)"
<12> towser -- 44 0 1000000 12 0 1000000
<12> jimbo -- 5220 0 1000000 445 0 1000000
<12> now jimbo has towser's quota
<12> ^_^
<13> is there a way to emerge localized versions of software?
<13> like firefox
<9> i did edquota -p <user with 30mb quota> <user with no quota>
<9> then: quota user_with_no_quota
<9> and it says quota: none
<9> but if i edquota the user, it shows 30mb!
<9> wtf?
<9> do i need to sync the quotas?
<12> dunno...
<12> never had that prob before
<12> do you have multiple filesystems with quota enabled?
<9> s'ok i fixed it, it was because the user had no files or directories
<12> ah, weird
<14> I am trying to emerge ruby and I am getting this error:
<14> Calculating dependencies ...done!
<14> >>> emerge (1 of 1) dev-lang/ruby-1.8.4-r1 to /
<14> !!! Files listed in the manifest do not exist!
<14> ruby-1.8.5_pre1.ebuild.orig
<14> I did an emerge --sync before
<14> hm, updating portage fixed it
<14> neverminmd
<15> anyone recommend a good shell provider?
<15> looking to run a couple bncs mainly
<10> binaryshell.com
<15> thanks
<10> np
<16> mod_fastcgi is pretty hot.
<16> any clue on adding services to the default runlevel in CentOS?
<16> i forget how rh does it.
<12> service something
<12> hmm
<12> thankfully, i have forgotten also
<16> hah
<16> No manual entry for service
<16> No manual entry for serviceconf
<16> <3 rh
<17> Ok, I'm having trouble with my soundcard. it was working until a coupla days ago, when suddenly with the next reboot, sending output to the card results in the process freezing
<17> After about a minute, it comes up with I/O error
<12> using a sound server?
<17> Nuh
<16> gah
<16> try googling for "centos service adding"
<16> i need better kws


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