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<0> oops
<0> for security the document designates into something different one over
<1> I get the jist of it, but I'm still not too confidant
<0> for security the document in somewhat different surplus marks
<1> I need to rename the file for security purposes,,, but I don't know why
<0> for security the document in the little different surplus markings
<0> Yes, I'm bored
<0> for security the document in the few different surplus markings
<0> I could have some fun with this
<2> 6
<3> dear god cygwin is so slow
<4> ms rules
<5> Heh. How do I install a raidcontroller driver, to a server that doesnt have a floppy drive and doesnt have an installed OS ?
<6> usb fdd?
<6> a customer had the same problem the other day heh
<6> he was running win2k3 tho



<6> told him to slipstream an install cd
<6> that scared him off haha
<5> By FDD you mean Floppy Disk Drive?
<4> MS Rules
<6> Milligan_: indeed
<6> balmer: we get it
<6> Milligan_: is it a hp server by any chance? ;)
<5> fracture, dell . And it doesnt have a floppydrive :)
<6> heh
<5> Actually, I had to hack it to even get a cdrom :P
<6> damn
<6> and it doesn't have a fdd connector on the mobo either?
<5> Its a pretty wicked server though. two terrabytes in raid5, and a 250 gig raid1 mirror for the os .
<6> damn
<5> Yeah
<6> that's wicked indeed
<6> nice fileserver hehe
<5> Yeah, right, haha.
<6> what else would you use it for?
<5> Its a backupserver for a pretty big serverpark.
<6> oh okay
<5> It crashed badly the other day ... killing the very old controller that was in it originally ..
<5> so Im extreme administering at the moment, with no real backup :-\
<6> ouch
<6> better get that solved
<5> Yeah .. which would be easy if I got this fekkin' controller up and running .
<5> Booting the gento liveCD doesnt do me much good ...
<5> I'd rather you didnt tell me. Ive been drinking heavy the last couple of days trying to forget the risk ;-)
<6> heh
<7> lol
<6> what do you guys drink in .no? is there any special beverage?
<5> Not really. Everything is dirt expensive. Beer for fun, vodka to get hammered.
<6> ah ok
<6> i thought you had some booze that was typical for norway
<5> Not really.
<8> MooseBooze
<5> fracture, after loading a module with insmod thats ment to support the device .. how do I activate it ?
<6> modprobe
<5> fracture, modprobe followed by what? :-)
<9> normally you should have a new device that you can use directly
<5> renihs, loading /lib/modules/2.6.9-gentoo-r1/kernel/drivers/scsi/sata_promise.ko, doesnt give any errors.. but lspci still reports the device as unknown.
<9> check dmesg|tail
<9> but i would modprobe -v the module
<6> eww promise :x
<6> if you want reliability i wouldn't buy promise heh
<4> http://images.google.co.il/imgres?imgurl=http://www.hotairamerica.com/images/meat-brain-275.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.hotairamerica.com/pu-cannibals.htm&h=177&w=275&sz=12&hl=iw&start=3&tbnid=-SVQlDrQJeq1iM:&tbnh=73&tbnw=114&prev=/images%3Fq%3DBRAIN%2BMEAT%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Diw%26lr%3D%26sa%3DN
<6> uh huh
<4> What?
<10> well, for a gentoo diehard like me, centos 4.3 is very refreshing so far
<9> pfff slowlaris isnt for me
<11> i just emerged --sync and it says 2 config files need updated i did find /etc -iname ',cfg????_*' but what do i do with the files it finds?
<9> use dispatch-conf to update your config
<11> i just moved the files myself does it make a diff?
<11> wtf on gentoo-install.com Kernel Compile NOT DONE
<11> NOT DONE as in i havnt had the time to complete this guide
<9> wtf is gentoo-install.com?
<9> i would stick to the real gentoo handbook
<9> you can move those configs yourself, but using dispatch-conf is adviseable
<9> once you have to update more than 1-2 configs...
<12> matja: centos workin pretty good? Is it a server or a desktop?



<10> brujoh: well, it was
<10> until i had to do something as ARCANE as building a kernel module
<12> hehehe
<10> brujoh: server
<10> i was considering using it instead of gentoo on the servers at work
<12> how many gentoo servers are you running?
<10> 8
<10> and a few in vmware
<12> damn
<12> centos is pretty good. Stable and easy.
<10> yeah...
<10> until you need gfs
<10> and ataoe
<10> and iscsi
<10> i thought it was bad enough in gentoo
<12> doh..
<12> you are running ataoe?
<10> yea
<10> cheap network storage
<12> hrmm... pretty cool matja.
<10> it'd be cool if win2003 had a ataoe driver
<10> i have to use the iscsi initiator on there
<10> and iscsitarget on linux to export a volume
<10> overhead++
<12> Ouch.. Does using ataoe/nas put much of a strain on your network?
<10> not really
<10> we're not pushing enough data arround for it to make a big differance at the moment
<10> and i cant see it happening in the next year or two
<10> we're running gigabit on everything anyway
<12> Nice ;)
<10> if it does interfere with normal network traffic, its easy enough to deploy a gige switch just for storage
<10> dont even need ip addresses with ataoe
<10> management time is virtually zero
<12> wow...
<12> It requires specialty hardware yeah?
<10> nope
<10> you can buy a rackmount disk array taht supports it from coraid.com
<10> but all it is, is a rackmount server with lots of hd's running linux
<12> ahhh okay.
<10> a probgram called 'vblade' exports a block device over ataoe
<10> and the aoe kernel driver creates a /dev device for every ataoe device it sees on the network
<10> vblade is about 10kbytes
<10> the aoe kernel driver is about 20-30k
<12> geeze
<10> no config files needed
<10> :)
<10> for simple quick shared storage, its great
<12> that is bad***.
<12> matja: well dude, you have a pretty customized config that gets clobbered whenever it is time to do a kernel?
<12> or is it some kernel bugs that are causing you trouble?
<10> what, in gentoo?
<12> centos
<10> well gfs is only supported in a certain kernel
<10> which is a different version from the latest kernel
<10> and its just a pain to get hold of sources for the right kernel
<12> oh rly
<10> since everything is binary packages
<10> you have to match everything
<12> what a pain
<10> like in gentoo you have one gfs-kernel ebuild
<10> in redhat theres one for every kernel version, kernel feature set (up,smp,hugemem), and architecture
<10> i find it messy
<10> but im still playing with centos
<12> I see, gotta have the right kernel-module for the right kernel
<13> http://www.treehugger.com/files/th_images/smart%204fun.jpg
<9> hmm am i confused or why does my smbfs fstab entry with gid=somegid,umask=0002 not give rw access to my groupid
<14> because the umask closes it down
<9> ?
<9> umask 000 would be 777
<14> indeed I misread that
<14> do an ls and look at the perms
<9> drwxr-xr-x 1 root users 4.0K Jul 26 14:18 technik


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