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<0> check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
<1> serial console and sysrq are the best thing ever
<2> theres a loadmodule "glx" in the log
<2> and nothing about it failed to load
<2> well, except the nvidia error
<3> User: fatmom Pasted http://pasteme.com/p.php?id=287
<2> or maybe I **** at searching
<0> (II) Module glx: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
<0> theres the problem, its using mesa gl instead of nvidia gl
<0> eselect opengl set nvidia
<2> doh
<0> it SHOULD say..
<0> (II) Module glx: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation"
<2> alright, so the nested window is there, but that dosent looks like xgl at all
<2> and theres a little errror
<2> well its non fatal, but is it normal that the nested window is... nothing but black



<0> keep reading the guide...
<2> woot
<2> :D
<2> thx alot, working with KDE
<2> scrolling a web page never been that slow, heh
<4> say, guys, what does a locked domain mean?
<5> hello
<0> greetings
<6> heil
<5> not much happening?
<0> its generally somewhat calm here
<0> unlike freenode
<5> i see
<5> im downloading the gentoo 2006.0 install disk for amd64 systems
<5> i hope i actually finnish the installation of my system this time
<5> the last time i tried i gave up
<7> why?
<0> if you use the handbook and do a manual install, we can help
<0> if you use the installer, theres not much we can do
<5> well, if i remember correctly i just flat out didnt know what the hell i was doing, i got pretty much done, like say 90% of the way, this was with an -i386
<5> i also still dont know exactly what i need to do as far as setting USE flags
<5> i mean is it supposed to be a somewhat small amount of items? or is it like 100
<0> dont bother setting tons of stuff in USE right away
<5> im using the install-amd64-universal-2006.0.iso
<0> but every time you want a new package, do "emerge -pv package" and see if the use flags are to your liking
<0> if they arent, make changes then continue the emerge
<0> follow the gentoo handbook
<5> is this the correct disc? are you familiar with this installation media?
<8> there's still a universal cd? I thought it was all just minimum install now
<0> you CAN use that for a manual install, but you'll have to switch over to vt1 to get root so you can start the install as normal
<8> i.e. non gui install
<5> yea
<0> there is no universal afaik
<8> oh i misread
<8> what anolis said
<5> there is a universal cd im dling it right now
<5> ???
<5> how do you guys go about installing gentoo?
<0> oh maybe amd64 doesnt have a livecd/installer
<5> well, its in the torrents section, but its dead
<0> anolis: follow this: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-amd64.xml?full=1
<9> timixuwi
<10> yamurx
<11> qaci
<2> amd64 only have an installer cd, not a true livecd with X like i686
<0> but does it have an installer?
<0> the automated one
<2> no, thats only on the livecd with X
<0> thought so
<5> well actually, i got as far as configuring X and installing gnome or kde
<2> and man, xgl is fun
<5> it was just beyond my level of understanding at that time
<2> but the rain/water effect lag the hell out of my video card haha
<2> FX sux badly
<0> i can't even get water to work, but i ***ume its because im on a gf4
<5> but my only question really is what are some good use settings i mean im totally lost on that whole issue
<5> i can do everything else just fine
<2> it also use 800meg of rams
<5> FatMom: what is xgl?
<0> FatMom: xgl does, or rain does?
<2> anolis: the most useless but yet awsome thing for linux



<0> anolis: what dont you understand about use flags? they enable/disable optional functionality on each package
<5> then hmm, but are you allowed to add new ones if you need to?
<0> yes, you can change them at any time
<2> iamben: well, xgl already slowed down pretty all abit, like scrolling web page and such is a little slower, but when I active rain its lag like ****
<0> thats why i said just do "emerge -pv whatever" before you emerge each thing to see if the flags are to your liking
<2> it
<0> and if they arent, make changes before actually running the emerge
<2> yeah I know my english ****, but anyway
<8> yah XGL was fun for an hour
<5> ok, so how do i make changes?
<0> yeah my scrolling is a bit slow, not horrible though
<0> anolis: you set it in make.conf, this is also covered in the handbook
<8> anolis: hrm emerge ufed that helps too find useflags you want
<2> well I dont care that xgl take half of my ressources to run.. the only thing I do anyway with this box is video/irssi/kopete/amarok
<5> hmm, ok thanks
<8> XGL doesn't use dri does it?
<8> it's indirect right?
<2> no
<2> I dont have dri
<2> well dunno if it can use it
<2> but mine dosent
<8> i don't think it does
<8> mine doesn't either
<8> but normal X I can
<0> direct rendering: No
<8> yah that's what i get in glxinfo too
<2> orly..
<8> that's why it's slow with some stuff
<8> XGL + dri would be great
<2> same..
<0> supposedly i still get 3k fps in glxgears somehow
<8> well it uses a cool indirect engine
<8> or something like that
<8> not sure on details..
<2> iamben: same, well around 5k
<0> can't run glx games though afaik
<2> I dont play games
<2> well not under linux
<2> games runs much better on win...
<12> how is 3k fps possible? that kind of speed would break the space-time continuum
<0> windows hurts
<13> FatMom: heh, want to see how long you've spent emerging ****e?
<2> genlop ?
<0> 16 days, 20 hours, 39 minutes and 34 seconds
<2> -p ?
<2> no wait
<12> what are the benefits to running amd64 over 32-bit
<13> http://pengu.in/~obsidianx/linux/coding/genlop-total.py
<12> and do these benefits outweigh the cost
<12> and by cost I mean inconveniences
<13> oops
<12> The requested URL /~obsidianx/linux/coding/genlop-total.py was not found on this server.
<2> RageDemon: I use x86 and i686 with my amd64 myself, because I saw no advandtage FOR ME to use x86_64
<13> http://pengu.in/~obsidianx/coding/nix/genlop-total.py
<2> and even, x86_64 only had inconveniences, like flash.... vesa... win32codecs
<12> Obsidian: what is your opinion of python
<12> that looks pretty easy
<2> vesa-tng*
<13> i love it
<13> i just wrote a script in python to collect info from video files
<12> I wish I was good at coding :(
<2> how can you get bored of the xgl cube
<13> FatMom: you try to do something productive :\
<2> Obsidian: ?
<12> FatMom: especially when they have xgl rubik's cube
<12> where you have to solve it to complete switching desktops
<12> 8)
<2> wahht
<13> http://pengu.in/~obsidianx/videoinfo.txt
<2> Obsidian: what do you mean ?
<13> woot woot
<12> Obsidian: you could generate web files complete with bar charts and calculate standard deviations for your video filez
<0> Obsidian: i had a thingy like that once, but it was written in php and db-driven
<12> Obsidian: what's the video that failed to scan


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