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<0> pff thats possible in the nederlands too
<1> kentivar`: yep, you just need your medical marijuana card
<2> redhook: nope
<2> call ifornia
<2> socal
<2> norcal
<3> renihs, it's not legal in california though.
<2> ukia
<2> bay area
<0> neither it is in the nederlands
<2> http://www.nizzles.net/jollyrancher.jpg
<3> oh?
<2> its legal here
<2> in the state
<0> just tolerated
<1> MaxInux: I know, I live in california
<0> its not legal in the nederlands in terms of juristic speaking
<1> MaxInux: but the bay area has by far the most distribution centers
<0> it cannot be
<3> it's not.
<0> (eu regulations /alot other stuff)
<3> err.. it's not?
<0> nope
<0> 100%
<0> i know the corresponding lex quite well
<2> redhook: specifically SF has the most
<1> its ****ed up though, federally marijuana has no accepted medical use and is a schedule 1 narcotic, but over 8 states have laws making it legal with a doctors recommendation
<2> it has some 40 clubs
<2> redhook: 13 states
<3> redhook, how does that change a federal law?
<2> and 2 municipalities
<1> exactly, and that number is growing
<3> i mean.. it's still illegal in those areas
<3> correct?
<1> katepls: well the federal government is not supposed to have law enfocerment powers in the states
<2> you cant be prosecuted unless you violate something that makes the federal government interested
<3> yeah, well welcome to the united police state of america
<1> but they come in and impose their will all the time
<2> not all the time
<2> rarely
<3> MaxInux, like not paying tax on the weed you sell?
<1> MaxInux: they raid clubs constantly
<2> katepls: we pay tax in the clubs actually
<2> and no they dont
<3> interesting
<2> they have raided 15 clubs since 96
<2> 4 of them were a front for an E smuggling ring
<1> MaxInux: here in norcal everytime a new club opens up the feds shut it doewn
<2> 4 of them in state wide due to tax evasion (comp***ionate caregivers)
<1> they busted a guy in eldorado county last summer who was growing for clubs
<2> norcal the cities close them more often then the fades
<2> feds
<2> Growing.. thats the thing thats illegal in large quantity
<2> <99 feds dont touch
<1> he was doing it legally under state law
<2> <12 the state doesnt care
<2> doubtfull redhook
<2> 12 plants doesnt get you much
<3> in my state cultivation of up to 100 grams is a misdemenor
<3> i probably spelled that wrong.
<0> 10dg is alot :)
<3> i'm thinking they would weigh EVERYTHING though
<2> ive had the cops out to my place to look at my grow though
<3> like your pots, and lights, and ****.
<0> in bayern (german) 3g are considered that
<2> decigram.. thats a term i havent used in a while
<1> anything under 28 grams is a ticket unless its in multiple bags or for sale
<3> cultivation of 20,000 grams is a minimum manditory prison sentence of 8 years.
<1> most cops dont really care about a little weed though
<3> how ****ty would that be?
<3> first offense, and you gotta do 8 years.
<0> arent around 7-10% of all us somehow constantly in prison?
<1> its ****ty, and the cops usually weight the whole plants, with the roots and soil around them
<0> roots?
<0> ah
<1> if you were to remove the buds and cure/dry them you'd have much less weight
<0> the living plant
<3> redhook, i know a kid who got popped, and they even weighed empty pots he had sitting in another room!
<0> indeed :)
<1> katepls: thats crazy
<3> he beat it of course, but he had to get a lawyer.
<0> yes indeed, show that you are worthy of being in society (pay lawyer)
<0> :)
<0> hihi
<3> hah!
<1> yes, but in the end you're boke and in debt from the legal bills
<1> so you still lose
<3> so you gotta grow MORE POT
<3> and they pop you again
<0> ya, 1st rule -> make them dependent (somehow)
<1> and the lawyers get rich
<3> so you pay the lawyer, and courts MORE MONEY
<3> which leads to MORE POT being grown
<3> heh.. anyway, i'm going to lunch
<0> being in depth has always been an effective method
<0> have fun
<1> there is no reason for marijuana to be illegal... it is probably the only drug that has never once killed a person
<0> redhook, no the lawyers get medical problems in large dimensions
<0> and lose money to medical industry
<4> same for LSD then
<0> lawyers are very poor, dont get fooled by there behaviour
<1> Dawai: it can be argued with LSD
<4> not according to my suicide manual
<1> take some LSD that isnt pure and you could die
<0> LSD would be important in therapies/psychiatric sessions
<0> but its mind changing so its not general usage i would say
<1> the main reason marijuana was made illegal was racisim
<0> under special guard and if the product is clean, no problem, anyhow
<0> redhook, LOL
<0> no
<1> here in the US yes
<4> racism?
<0> i talk about us
<0> nope
<1> Dawai: those dirty mexicans were smoking it
<4> i see
<4> anyway
<5> thought friday would never come
<4> "A correspondent points out a case reported by The Journal of Clinical Toxicology where eight people snorted pure LSD Tartrate, beliving that it was cocaine. The amounts ingested was estimated to be from 1000 to 10000 times an ordinary dose. Half of them lapsed into comas, but all of them came out of it without any treatment. Some were given Valium for anxiety efterwards."
<4> amusing
<1> I want some pure lsd-25
<0> how was the guy called which led the lobby industry in the 30's? (and later on)
<0> cant remember name but he was very effective
<0> against weed
<0> they told such funny stories (sad lies), completely contradicting too
<5> well
<1> Reefer Madness
<5> they were probably stoned at the time
<0> like, a mexican under the influence was very aggressive, not afraid of guns, and multiple men are required to restrain him
<1> yeah
<0> years leater, -> complete oposite stories
<0> funny, but there is another industrie behind this
<0> search a bit, its not in disguise :9
<5> tortib, you there?
<6> Lots of other industries behind it.
<0> just one determing player
<0> in my opinion
<6> M***ive hemp production would reduce profits for Oil, cotton, and lots others
<0> indeed
<1> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Marahuana_warning.png
<6> Murder! Insanity! Death!
<1> well I believe Du-Pont lobbied for the marijuana tax act because it was competing with a product of their, nylon
<0> hehe
<0> Du-Pont
<0> yes
<0> i think that was him
<0> or something like that
<0> no hmm wait
<0> not sure anymore
<0> gruml
<6> yup. Very useful plant. I don't smoke any more (can't stand it for some reason), but hemp rocks.
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