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<0> hrmm, thats odd
<0> left 2 boxes updated .. both failed on ERROR: x11-apps/xdriinfo-1.0.1 failed.
<0> configure: error: cannot find GL library - make sure Mesa or other OpenGL package is installed
<1> I've got a proposal for a new GLEP:
<1> automated emerge failure reports to a central server for the possibility of immediate bug fixes...
<1> identification of bugs could be done on a statistical basis
<2> what is the preferred media (mp3) application?
<1> none
<1> or all
<2> nice
<1> amarok is quite nice
<2> so.. lets refrase, a nice app with a library_
<2> ?
<2> ok..
<1> bugs -> bugs not due to user errors...
<3> Cinquero: the problem with that is, 98% of all failed builds are non-bugs
<3> kinsey: amarok is the answer
<3> probably greater than 98%
<4> yes, amarok
<2> I see that it depends on alot from kde-base?
<3> yes, it is a kde app
<4> probably hence the "k" on the end of the name
<2> right..
<3> but it is THE music player
<4> indeed
<1> iamben, maybe, but do these non-buggy problems occur more frequently (in exactly the same manner) than the buggy ones?
<2> so, is there a amarog for gnome then? :)
<3> much like k3b is THE cd burning app... ****s that it needs all those kde libs, but its worth it for most people
<1> k3b is damn slow
<3> kinsey: rhythmbox, but it ****s in comparison
<4> how is k3b slow?
<1> try to put many files noto your dvd...
<3> this is part of the reason i use kde, saves me mem on shared libs =)
<4> does it not burn your cds as fast? hehe
<1> noto->onto
<4> yep
<4> im a kde man
<3> Cinquero: yeah but how does it compare to other gui burning apps under linux? oh wait there are none
<4> hheheh
<1> iamben, that's a point
<3> ShALLaX: i say that, but i just realized im in gnome atm
<4> nero for linux!
<1> iamben, that's why I wrote a small dvd backup script including ras and par2 :-)))
<0> hanging still on ****ed up package .. urgh
<4> http://junk.shallax.com/ss.jpg
<3> i think you just have to accept that you WILL use both kde & gtk apps, there is no way around it
<3> s/gtk/gnome
<1> tar, split and put additional recovery records
<4> i try to limit my gtk as much as possible
<3> ShALLaX: gaim, firefox
<4> kopete, konqueror
<4> (rarely use firefox)
<3> not much getting around that.
<4> kopete is just as good, if not better, than gaim
<1> iamben, I have filed a bug that gimp cannot be emerged when the doc use flag is enabled....
<3> kopete ****s, im sorry... and konq isnt great for web
<1> no reaction
<4> iamben: i used to hate kopete
<3> Cinquero: how long ago?
<4> but its the same as gaim these days
<1> the bug is there for quite a while, the bug has been filed two days ago or so
<3> ShALLaX: i admit i havent tried it in a couple of years, but people tell me it still ****s =)
<1> licq is the best ICQ client
<4> iamben: a couple of years is when i last tried it
<4> and it was _terrible
<4> _
<3> 2 days isnt long, the devs are always busy
<4> ;p
<3> Cinquero: anyway, has anyone else confirmed this bug or is it just you?
<1> it is obvious
<3> so its just you
<1> gimp requires gimp-help, gimp-help blocks gimp-2.2.12+
<3> is this stable or unstable gimp?
<4> emerge -C gimp && emerge gimp gimp-help
<4> they changed it
<1> stable
<4> get rid of your old gimp first
<4> then merge the new gimp
<3> yeah thats not a bug, lots of packages have done that
<3> ie xorg
<4> aye
<4> shadow... utempter/libutempter
<4> i think were recent ones
<3> it would be nice if the errors/blocks were more verbose in telling you how to fix it, but gentoo isnt perfect
<4> agreed
<1> iamben, they are verbose enough
<4> not really
<4> otherwise you wouldnt have come here
<4> hehe
<1> iamben, the utempter stuff and xorg were obvious
<4> i bet gimp is also in your upgrade list
<4> thats what made it obvious to me
<4> i dont believe you
<1> then don't
<2> anyone here know why its impossible to load pages from gentoo-wiki.org?
<0> hrm ... synced, emerged -u world, failed, synced again, emerged -u world p***ed
<0> lmao
<4> i w*** talkking to Nate_LapT, Cinquero ;p
<5> wow, i havent ran emerge -uDv world in a while
<5> i have about 400 things merging and being removed
<0> same here .. on 2 boxes Nate
<5> like xorg 6.9 wants to go away
<3> kinsey: the server is "down"
<1> uhm, well, gimp now installs...
<4> but...? ;p
<1> strange thing that is
<0> i own .org, should move it to a second server, and mirror
<1> emerge checks against installed versions although it is going to upgrade them??
<0> i'll talk to thrasher
<6> sCsI: lil hard to mirror it with all the constant changes
<0> nah .. gotta be a way
<0> whats w/ server ?
<6> it wont reboot
<3> Cinquero: its just an unfortunate situation where the new gimp NEEDS the new lib, but the new lib is known to NOT work with the old gimp
<6> vapor is heading down shortly
<5> is there a way to make emerge fix the blocked packages or do i manualy have to unmerge them one by one
<0> hrm, got ssh ?
<0> manually
<6> the machine is completely locked
<5> bleh
<0> nice
<1> iamben, yes, but it is nonetheless pretty dumb, isn't it?
<6> cant even ping it
<5> thats the one thing i HATE about gentoo
<6> Nate_LapT: better then RPMs
<0> RPMS ****ed
<5> never really used rpms
<3> Cinquero: yeah, its a bummer, but thats just life right now, there are some things portage doesnt handle as gracefully as we/they would like
<5> ok, now emerge hates me
<5> it made me unemerge mozilla, but it thinks its still there
<7> then it didnt complete?
<7> unmerge it again ?
<5> Couldn't find 'mozilla' to unmerge.
<3> when you say "it thinks its there", you mean its still showing up as a blocker?
<5> [blocks B ] www-client/mozilla (is blocking www-client/seamonkey-1.0.2)
<5> what is seamonkey anyways
<3> because that just means that one of the packages in your emerge list requires mozilla
<7> eix mozilla
<2> anyone here tried Listen?
<3> seamonkey is the new mozilla suite
<8> Nate_LapT: that happens because you don't have USE flag firefox
<5> ah
<8> please search on bugzilla
<8> and the forums, hmmkay
<8> :P
<5> sorry for your incovinence penguin
<8> teehee
<9> ffs, 8 xp CDs and none work
<5> bleh 260 packages to merge
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