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<0> xterm's settings are independant of X
<1> ok
<0> have you tried gnome terminal?
<0> i think it's a better terminal app
<2> konsole
<1> hmm
<3> nothing wrong with xterm
<1> well
<1> what is the file i should edit then?
<3> .Xdefaults if you are trying to change the bg & fg colors in xterm
<1> yea
<1> and if i dont have that file?
<3> you create it, obviously
<3> xterm*Foreground: grey
<3> xterm*Background: black
<3> thats what i use



<1> ok?
<1> should i just create one file and add those rows into it?
<3> yes
<1> ok where should i put it?
<3> ~
<1> ~?
<1> what is that?
<3> aka your home dir
<1> ahh ok
<1> whey it works :P
<1> now i can use X without burning my eyes
<1> now i am going to add some users
<4> I have a new error
<4> nmow
<4> something about 'kbd' 'ati' and 'mouse' being too new
<4> Module ABI mojor version (6) is newer than the servers version (7)
<4> and for ati
<4> it's
<4> c
<4> module ABI major version (1) idoesn't match the server's version (0)
<0> hah
<3> did you downgrade xorg-server, but forget to downgrade some of the modules?
<4> I had to use the xfree modulesw
<3> well yeah, it always uses xf86-* for modules
<3> but if you mix xorg-server 1.0.x with xf86-*-1.1.x, it wont work
<5> 0mg no wikiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
<1> hmm
<1> my soundcard wont work :(
<5> R.I.P. robz_ soundcard
<1> naaw
<1> its not the shoundcard that is dead
<1> i think its some driver or something that needs installing
<3> its your unmuting skills
<1> haha
<3> "cat /proc/asound/cards" to see if a driver is installed
<3> thrasher7: fixi the wiki
<3> oh there she goes
<5> gentoo-portage down also
<1> hmm nope
<5> my two fav sites
<1> i dont even have /proc/asound/cards
<3> its going sloooowly here
<3> robz_: then yeah, you need to install a driver
<1> ok
<1> anything you recomend for a soundblaster live card
<1> ?
<3> emu10k1 in the kernel
<1> uhm genkernel?
<3> this is why i recommended a manual kernel config
<1> yes
<1> cant i just add it in the genkernel?
<3> probably, you need to get to menuconfig
<1> ok
<1> emerge it?
<6> --menuconfig i think
<1> ok
<6> god, im ashamed that i know that
<1> hehe ok
<1> just type that?



<6> no, its an option for genkernel
<5> I dont care who you are, what you do, where your from
<1> ok
<5> as long as you love me
<1> so the entire command is?
<6> robz_: in the gentoo documentation
<6> im certainly not here to spoonfeed you
<1> aww
<5> make menuconfig;echo "ritalin owns me" > .lamer;cat lamer
<6> nope, ritalin10
<6> he insists on using genkernel
<6> heh
<5> o
<5> genkernel ****s
<5> it like compiles everything known to man doesnt it?
<7> :D
<6> probably not if you use --menuconfig
<6> but if youre going to do that, why not just do it manually anyway?
<1> well
<1> cuz i dont know anything about what hardware i use
<1> ok some things ok
<3> 14:54 < iamben> and its a pain in the *** to try to help troubleshoot a kernel issue w/ a genkernel user
<3> 14:55 < iamben> because neither you nor they have any idea how it is configured
<1> but not some thingies
<6> lspci
<1> hmm
<1> its not possible to runt genkernel --menuconfig
<1> arrg
<5> dont use genkernel
<5> it ****s
<1> ok
<1> so i should download a normal one
<5> just figure out what hardware you have
<1> and you will help me set it?
<5> probally not
<5> but ill cross my fingers
<1> uhm
<5> the linux kernel config is to big to explain to someone
<1> haha
<1> ok
<5> just keep a backup of your genkernel
<5> and keep trying to you get it right
<5> read the handbook also on gentoo.org
<5> it explains some things you _need_
<5> but in honestly you could just use genkernel if you like
<5> it wont run slower
<5> just has a larger memory footpring and longer to boot
<5> the mem footprint doesnt really matter now days
<5> and how often does one reboot in linux?
<8> 18:48:14 up 199 days, 16:30, 3 users, load average: 0.20, 0.09, 0.09
<8> but also 18:52:20 up 7 days, 1:51, 1 user, load average: 0.44, 0.10, 0.03 :)
<8> haha
<1> yea
<1> ja usualy have an uptime of 80days or something
<3> im poor and turn mine off when im gone a while
<1> haha ok
<9> 18:54:51 up 11 days, 2:13, 0 users, load average: 0.13, 0.14, 0.14
<9> someone decided that the cure for no disk space was a reboot
<9> great plan.
<1> well just go to the install manual and do the manual config for the kernel or should i recongigure the genkernel?
<6> heh
<6> caring about uptimes makes you very lonely :(
<1> hehe
<1> well after installing putty on my phone i was verry happy
<1> very*
<1> now i can watch my uptime from everywhere
<6> which phone? symbian?
<1> pocketpc
<6> ahh, model?
<1> Qtek S100
<6> ah
<6> I have the 9100
<1> windows :P
<6> kinda bulky :\


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