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<0> once its installed, then you ahve to figure out what the hell to do
<1> then i have you :p
<2> 2 day gentoo install = 1 year mandrake / redhat
<3> thrasher7: ya really
<1> so guess you have to get used to me right away haha :p
<0> thrasher7: totally agree
<4> mrecho: okay, ill check it, but seems that its compiling because its missing a file, libglut_la-freeglut_callbacks.o, maybe if i could find that file i could put it in place and fix it
<3> sym00: doesnt work like that
<2> it teaches you how things work real quick
<2> with mdk i flt like i was fumbling around
<5> I was pretty new to linux (I am still... ) when I installed gentoo, took me about 1weeks to get things working right, just for the install
<5> ok I was on a p3 too
<3> FatMom: ya it took about a week to get a good working install of gentoo
<6> do you guys find the gnome has a bit of a mem leak?
<3> what part of gnome kyran
<1> bah, my net is slow
<1> gonna take 15 hours to DL that CD :p
<6> well the ram isn't resyncing itself after apps are closed
<4> mrecho: i went to the /var/tmp/portage/freeglut*/work/freeglut* directory and did a manual compile and it compiled
<3> FantaGirl: you on dial-up?
<0> what package containts iwconfig?
<1> MrEcho, no
<3> neon think wireless
<0> contains*
<5> my gnome is taking about 560mb right now
<5> well, gnome, X, and all the stuff
<1> but my host have had problems the last 2 days ;(
<0> think wireless...hmm
<3> 115MB in kde + im running a windows program in wine
<0> I know ive heard of the package before i jsut cant recall the name
<1> so, think i am gonna stick with my mdk a few days more
<5> MrEcho: what ?
<3> and firefox running
<5> :o
<5> how
<3> in X
<3> :P
<5> even my kde (when I had it) was taking much more mem than that
<3> when i first load kde its around 50MB
<5> yeah but you emerge like, just kde-base ?
<5> or the whole thing
<3> pretty much the whole thing
<5> damn
<5> but If i emerge kde now that I have gnome, will kde load with half of the gnomes crap services etc ?
<3> true ammount 134 (thats - buffers and cached)
<4> mrecho: i manually compiled and installed freeglut from the tmp directory, but it still fails via emerge - is there a way that i can remove that as a dependency for xorg?
<6> Mrecho let me check it out
<6> Mrecho the thing is that this is the first time I use gnome I used to use console only
<6> I just find it that 300 - 500mgs of ram for a gui is a bit exagerated
<3> depens on where your getting your info
<3> do a free -m .. and - buffers and cached
<7> kyran.. would you rather half of it is swaped out
<6> echelon mike # free -m
<6> total used free shared buffers cached
<6> Mem: 1010 702 308 0 29 376
<6> -/+ buffers/cache: 296 714
<6> Swap: 2023 0 2023
<3> ok so look at your [ps aux] and see whats eating up ram
<6> root 10507 1.6 5.2 58460 54048 ? R 17:04 5:28 /usr/bin/X :0 -audit 0 -auth /var/gdm/:0.Xauth -nolisten tcp vt7
<6> doing an emerge right now also so doesn't help much
<6> root 11277 51.2 3.0 35060 31648 pts/0 R+ 22:32 2:59 /usr/bin/python -O /usr/bin/emerge --sync
<3> :P
<6> but wait up i'll let that finish
<6> and i'll redo free-m and paste it again
<3> close everything, and go from there
<7> you've got 1gb of ram and there still is more than 2/3rd's free if u don't count cached.. why care?
<6> true
<6> but I've never used a OS that touched over th 400mg of ram
<6> I guess i'm just being anal hehe
<7> hehe guess u haven't run XP then
<7> run/ran
<6> hehe ya
<6> Slackeware + console ftw
<3> well diskcache will take up alot of ram in linux
<6> slackware even
<7> ah minimalist eh?
<6> yep
<6> I used to run netbsd back in the day then went to openbsd then slack
<6> and now gentoo
<7> hehe netbsd will run on anything
<6> i'm trying to get away from the windows environment as I get very addicted to MMOs
<6> and it's a huge waste of time
<3> all in all i do think gnome does take up more ran
<6> I wasted 2 years on Lineage 2
<7> ouch
<6> hehe ya tell me about it
<6> I installed unix on all my comps now
<6> I have a dev box with gentoo + harden + pax / grsec
<6> and my work machine using gentoo sources
<6> I'm having a bit of an issue with video playback I guess it must be the ATI support
<7> yeah ati and nvida both love to release binaries of any really "good" drives
<6> when playing videos in full screen in mplayer it just shows in the middle of the screen but I tried Xine and yes that did put it on full screen but with huge frame buffer issues
<6> k
<6> look at this
<6> * An update to portage is available. It is _highly_ recommended
<6> * that you update portage now, before any other packages are updated.
<6> * Please do so and then update ALL of your configuration files.
<6> echelon mike # free -m
<6> total used free shared buffers cached
<6> Mem: 1010 800 209 0 32 475
<7> eh use pasteme if u have a lot
<8> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 47.575/47.834/48.265/0.285 ms
<8> denver -> atlanta
<6> emerge has just finished but the ram isn't freeing up
<9> Damn, Xgl/Compiz is cool.
<6> anyway to refresh the ram without rebooting?
<9> Completely useless, but awesome nonetheless.
<3> Kyran: kill X ; startx ; make sure ther isnt any other programs that load up ; then do it
<6> roger
<6> and I need to do that everytime?
<3> no .. just want to see
<3> and you should really update portage
<6> updating portage is emerge --update --ask world
<6> right?
<3> emerge -pa world
<3> dont know why ppl use --update etc....
<6> eek
<6> [blocks B ] sys-apps/pam-login (is blocking sys-apps/shadow-4.0.15-r2)
<6> [blocks B ] <=x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 (is blocking x11-proto/kbproto-1.0.2)
<6> [blocks B ] <=x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 (is blocking x11-misc/util-macros-1.0.2)[blocks B ] <=x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 (is blocking x11-libs/libX11-1.0.1-r1)
<6> [blocks B ] <=x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 (is blocking x11-proto/xextproto-7.0.2)
<6> [blocks B ] <=x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 (is blocking x11-proto/xf86bigfontproto-
<6> and so on
<0> hmm
<6> I guess I need to edit make.conf?
<3> your really really really out of date
<0> How do I get my card to be detected
<0> Its a wifi prism2 based card with the hostap driver
<9> There are numerous wifi howto's on gentoo-wiki
<0> eic: can you give me a link?
<0> its kindof hard googling wihtout X
<9> gentoo-wiki.com
<0> =p
<0> alright, ill see if i can find one
<9> Perhaps you should install it then. :P
<0> mm, nah
<0> waste of space
<9> I love when people act like they're using computers from the 80's.
<9> "No, the bloat!"
<7> is there something wrong about 80s hardware?
<0> =p
<9> No, except that this is the year of our lord two thousand six.
<10> just because you have good hardware doesnt mean you should bloat it
<7> you know intel still makes 486 chips, for embedded systems
<10> thats the exact reason why software is 1,000,000 times less efficient than it used to be
<7> tis a good line of chippies
<9> Therefore thy hardware should be able to handle X
<10> people dont give enough of a **** anymore :/
<0> eic: It can handle X, I just dont wnat it
<10> i dont think intel still make 486s.. they sold the tech out to other people
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