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<0> like myself
<1> i forgot, how do you make it so gentoo doesnt put /dev in a tar during shutdown
<2> RC_DEVICE_TARBALL="no" in /etc/conf.d/rc
<1> thanks, all i needed was the filename
<1> couldnt remember it
<1> hmm
<1> its set to no already, but this damn /dev/dvd sylink changes on me
<0> if it is set to no, then changes you make manually will NOT stick
<0> the proper way is to use udev rules
<1> ya
<1> i set it to yes
<1> ill do udev rules some other time
<3> geeze.. I just tried kde on the new gentoo install. Features were neat but it was a dog. Artsd kept running wild at 99%. I guess this is because I didn't ocnfigure any sound stuff.
<4> binaries?
<3> nope, no binaries.
<0> dont use artsd
<5> i wish i had that choice
<5> crappy sound card :\
<0> you still have that choice.
<0> use dmix
<0> arts is NEVER needed except for crappy kde system sounds
<5> tried that, but crap like firefox hijacks /dev/dsp
<5> (at least, flash does)
<0> thats a problem w/ flash using oss
<5> ^^
<5> i guess that'll never get fixed
<5> at least konqueror can pipe it through arts
<3> ahhh artsd is the devil! I was always suspicious
<6> hi
<7> sup
<5> levels of boredom
<8> hey
<9> woot linux now has ntfs rw without captive ... http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=23836054&forum_id=2697
<1> ..........
<5> welcome to ~2 years ago?
<5> hehe
<9> ShALLaX: yea but the one in the kernel tree is marked dangerous do not use
<5> still?
<9> yea take a look at it in 2.6.17
<9> read support has been there for a long time but write support has laways been the tricky bit
<5> "This enables the partial, but safe, write support in the NTFS driver"
<9> partial
<5> its just very limited
<5> but its not dangerous ;)
<9> new driver is full support though
<5> yeah, about 6 months before winfs is released, no doubt
<5> hehe
<10> ntfs read support is fine.. i personally wouldn't trust write support
<8> do i need to change something in my fstab during install?
<5> yes, everything
<5> heh
<8> :P
<7> robz_ if it says /dev/ROOT change it to the correct one, usually /dev/hda1
<7> usually that's the only thing to change :P
<5> i thought they try to get you to make boot root swap
<5> hda1 hda2 hda3
<5> or some crap
<5> ive never really got the point of making a separate /boot
<11> How do one unsubscribe from enlightenment-cvs mailing list?
<12> boot root swap lvm
<12> the only way to do it
<8> ok
<8> now i have changed it
<5> ok?
<8> anything more?
<5> read the manual?
<8> yea
<8> i have done it
<5> then why are you asking for help here when its all int he manual? ;)
<8> but i get confused if there is to much numers and letter-combinations
<5> are you sure linux is right for you, then? heh
<8> haha
<8> i have been running slack for 3 years
<8> i get confused when there are alot
<8> well
<8> nothing more?
<5> if you have reached the end of the manual, no
<13> ShALLaX, seperate boot in case you have multiple linuxes
<5> ahh, i guess
<14> whats the quickest ftp daemon to get up n running if i need to grab some files of my nix box over the network
<9> pure-ftpd
<10> most daemons will work fine with the default config
<14> ncie thx
<8> ok lilo or grub?
<0> q\: scp, it's already set up
<0> robz_: grub.
<15> both of them at the same time
<8> ok
<9> lol looks like tpb was making a little $$ with there site http://rixstep.com/1/20060708,00.shtml
<15> lilo for old times sake
<15> i guess all new people recommend grub
<0> all but stubborn old men recommend grub
<9> hey i'm not old :)
<8> hmmm grub seems wierd
<5> grub ftw.
<15> somehow /dev/hda1 seems more obvious to me than hd(0,1) or whatever it is in grub
<15> but that's just me
<0> grub is a bootloader
<0> lilo is a linux bootloader
<0> grub uses more generic terms, not guesses at linux device nodes
<15> that's very cute
<0> grub's is based off bios boot device order, understand that and its not complicated
<5> aye
<0> first boot device is hd0, REGARDLESS of whether that is hda, sdc, or WHATEVER in linux
<14> lilo is so much easier than grub
<5> it is? heh
<8> Yea
<14> no confusion
<15> i'm sure it's a matter of getting used to it
<5> root (hd0,0); kernel /bzImage root=/dev/hda2
<5> thats so hard
<0> whichever one you are used to is easiest
<15> but i'm used to configuring lilo so i'm sticking with it for now
<5> enjoy it heh
<15> i am
<14> well try figuring out how to reference and evms boot drive with grub shallax
<5> grub is by far superior ;p
<14> and=an
<15> if it is why don't i feel the need to use it
<5> ignorance?
<15> it works, what's to ignore?
<0> most windows users dont feel the need to use linux
<5> windows works, why use linux?
<8> well
<5> hehe
<0> because they dont know any better
<5> iamben: great minds.. and all that ;)
<8> i just did as the manual told me to
<15> ShALLaX: who says i'm not doing that
<8> but i used genkernel
<8> so it gives no support on that one
<8> arrg
<0> the manual did NOT tell you to use genkernel =)
<8> yes it did
<0> default: manual config... if you are a puss: genkernel =)
<8> haha
<8> naaw
<5> yeah, never used genkernel
<5> never will
<8> i just dont know what hardware i use
<8> :P
<0> robz_: lspci does
<5> lspci
<15> heh
<10> genkernel works.. but, its not that hard todo manual
<0> and its a pain in the *** to try to help troubleshoot a kernel issue w/ a genkernel user
<0> because neither you nor they have any idea how it is configured
<5> hehe
<8> well heh
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