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<0> Installing from livecd (i686)
<1> no .. that depends on your chost
<2> I actually like running in 64bit
<2> i think it's faster
<0> What would suggest for this cpu?
<2> eta0h: he already answered you, move on
<0> lude: uhh
<0> no
<1> [07:15] <1> use nocona
<0> that relates to CFLAGS
<0> not CHOST ;)
<2> CHOST is already set on the install CD, don't **** around with it
<1> CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
<2> and do us ALL a favor
<2> please read through the install docs before you install gentoo
<0> Currently it;s CHOST="i386-pc-linux-gnu" - so don't be a ****



<1> yes please
<3> lude, i think it seems faster too, but i always ***umed it was psycho-symantec
<2> it's currently that on the install CD perhaps
<1> eta0h: not the one on the cd .. the one that comes with the stage
<4> psycho symantec ?
<4> well, symantec does like to kill stuff, but still
<2> but when you extract a i686 stage tarball, it'll be exactly as MrEcho said
<0> MrEcho I appreciate your help
<2> katepls: yeah i'm not sure, it could be in my head
<2> i know for SURE my java apps run faster on a 64 bit system
<2> that i've tested
<3> somimetic
<1> i wish i could get azureus to work
<0> I had initially went with the amd64 install, but ran into some issues with expect
<2> psychosomatic is the word you're looking for
<3> err
<3> so?mat?ic
<3> heh
<3> yes
<3> symantec
<3> lol
<3> damn psycho AV
<3> lude, you will really notice a difference when encoding video
<3> imo anyway
<2> I haven't tried yet, but I'll give it a shot
<2> my home and work machines are 64-bit
<2> and my laptop would be if it supported it
<3> cinelerra is the ****.
<3> my laptop has a socket 939 64bit cpu in it!
<2> core duo here
<3> i lucked out there.. only paid $800 for it
<2> I paid 1600 or so
<2> but on my corporate amex
<5> lucky
<2> :)
<3> how does that make him lucky?
<3> he's only lucky if he doesn't have to pay the bill.
<5> i was syaing lucky to your laptop katepls
<3> oh
<3> hurray for me!
<3> the real funny part about it is, they didn't advertise this laptop as being 64bit
<4> my laptop has a non-socket 939 amd64 cpu
<4> and hence does not weigh six kilos
<3> it has a "sempron 3300+" which isn't listed on amd's website.
<4> it is also quite possibly faster than a sempron 3300+
<3> i eventually found out the 3300 was an athlon 3000 that didn't p*** QA, so they rebadged it a Sempron
<3> ****in' HP
<3> oh yeah, they screwed up support for dual channel ram too
<3> even though the cpu is 939, it wont take advantage of dual channel. 8/
<2> katepls: i don't have to pay the bill
<3> lude, nice!
<6> i think my desktop machine died
<6> wouldn't turn on when i woke up this morning
<6> monitor won't turn on either, everything else seems fine
<3> when you said corporate, i wasn't sure if you meant YOUR business, or the business you work for.
<3> Rjx, have you tried plugging it in?
<2> nah
<3> 8||
<7> i hadn't thought of that
<2> my consulting stuff all goes on my personal amex
<7> ;x



<3> lude, and that has to be paid monthly correct?
<2> yeah
<3> paid in full rather.
<2> best thing i ever did
<2> paid in full monthly, yeah
<3> i need a better business solution
<3> right now i have my stuff spread across 3 cards
<2> carrying a balance is just about the worst thing ever
<3> i agree
<8> boy I can't wait until the US stops shooting and starts talking with people
<3> pinguin, the US politicians you mean
<3> i don't think most US citizens are happy at this point.
<8> well I'm talking about USGOP of course
<8> the disastrous attitude of 'support Israel no matter what' for starters
<8> instead of being reasonable and listening to everyone :)
<9> Whoops...
<9> I think I ****ed that image up a little...
<7> pinguin: why do you hate freedom?
<8> Rjx: that's exactly the point Rjx... If you're saying something like I just did, you're immediately branded as 'someone against us' by Bush & co.
<9> I just reimaged my drive and went to do an emerge --update world and I got a bunch of unable to handle kernel request' errors
<10> Israel==US
<8> I'm very skeptical of both sides
<8> but people should at least be aware that 'madmen' as people like ***ad may seem, there can at least be reasoned with them behind closed doors.
<7> it has been interesting to see things happen from the inside of the US
<8> or the Iranian leader, for that matter
<8> Ahmenijadad or something
<7> (i've lived in britain most of my life)
<7> apart from his strange anti-holocaust rants Ahmenijahd (or whatever) seems like a fairly smart guy
<11> yea and you still **** =\
<12> pinguin, Ahmadinejad
<8> that's it emel, thanks
<12> welcome
<8> time for diplomacy doesn't 'run out' because the US says so
<12> The conflict in middeast will never end
<7> as much as i disagree with his other teachings, freud said something that's always stuck with me
<8> there will never be an complete end to a long-running conflict
<7> the first man to throw an insult instead of a rock was the founder of civilisation
<12> And since most of the govs are *puppets* for bush's administration
<8> much like the unrest on the Balkan never ends
<8> that's been going on for centuries
<12> not really pinguin
<8> only recently culminated in the Yugoslavia split-up
<13> pinguin, lol?
<12> they used to live in arab countries
<13> what unrest is going on for centuries on the balkan?
<12> and i always say it's different between having a country or living in a country :-)
<13> didnt notice that
<8> renihs: are you kidding? Don't you know anything about the history of former Yugoslavia ?
<8> regardless
<8> diplomacy before all else kthx
<8> :)
<13> pinguin, plz ?
<5> anyone here do FTA satellite, owndering if it still works
<12> pinguin, explain please
<13> i live very close to those countries and i would know nothing about a centuries unrest thingie
<12> define diplomacy
<8> http://en.wikipedia.org/Wiki/Diplomacy
<3> emel, stealing the oppositions oil
<12> since they did what they did for *two soldiers*
<12> bleh
<8> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diplomacy
<12> pinguin, i know what it is
<3> emel, did you read that article yesterday?
<3> they said this was premeditated
<12> katepls, what article?
<3> the US, and Israel had this planned before they kidnapped those mfers.
<12> yeah i heard
<3> yeah, they want to destroy iran
<12> they can't
<13> lol, why does everyone think this operation has *anything* todo with those 2 soldiers
<3> they will
<12> we'll see :-)
<13> lol
<3> renihs, the mainstream media


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