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<jatma> i wanted to minimize fans, ie, just use 2x 12cm fans for all disks
<jatma> to reduce noise
<jatma> otherwise i'd just go for a rack case and fill it with delta fans :D
<redhook> watercool
<glen2> I found that bolting the HDDs to lumps of metal reduces noise (as they can't vibrate as much) and aids cooling as metal is a better heat conductor then still air.
<KuR-RupT> anyone here use scrollz?
<glen2> What that?
<KuR-RupT> irc client
<KuR-RupT> like irssi/bitchx
<jatma> glen2: have you seen the Zalman total silent case? its like $900. its basically one big heatsink with heatpipes
<jatma> the exterior panels are ribbed anodized aluminium to aid radiating the heat away
<jatma> its pretty harc0re
<glen2> You don't need ribbed heat sink, just find the biggest lumps of aluminium at the local scrap yard that will fit in your case/
<glen2> jatma, I prefer to make my own cases.
<jatma> :o
<glen2> I made one case one that was designed to survive being used to hit people who might try to mug my on my way to LAN parties in London.
<ReCuRSi0N> Hi, I have worked my way through the handbook and after doing reboot I get: VFS: Cannot open root device "hda3" or unknown-block(0,0) Please append a correct "root=" boot option Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
<ReCuRSi0N> could someone plz help ?
<glen2> BRB meeting.
<Mik-> ReCuRSi0N : what kind of drives? Are you attempting to do any raid stuff?
<ReCuRSi0N> no raid here it is on Vmware though, I will do a native install on my P3 later
<Mik-> oh
<Mik-> it's somehow related to either incorrect root partition name, or missing driver for your hard drive controller
<ReCuRSi0N> I setup root on /dev/hda3 and that's where I pointed to in grub .. kernel loads fine but can't see the root
<Mik-> show me your grub.conf part
<Mik-> it's IDE drive, right?
<ReCuRSi0N> yes
<ReCuRSi0N> root (hd0,0)
<ReCuRSi0N> kernel /boot/kernel-2.6.12-gentoo-r10 root=/dev/hda3
<ReCuRSi0N> atm it hangs there after this msg ... I can open the grub shell though
<Mik-> did you run grub-install /dev/hda ?
<ReCuRSi0N> yes
<ReCuRSi0N> I followed every step in handbook ... it's the second time everything messes up right at the end ... so that's why I come here ;)
<ReCuRSi0N> can I still save this setup with the grub shell ? or should I try again :/ ?
<Mik-> you cannot save it, but you can edit grub setup and boot system
<Mik-> and then save it
<pock> ReCuRSi0N
<pock> did you set your IDE informatio in the Kernel?
<pock> go back into the kernel config, device drivers and under ATA, etc make sure your correct chipset is selected..
<pock> I had that same error yesterday
<pock> and thats what it was
<ReCuRSi0N> sure but how do I get a prompt ?
<ReCuRSi0N> it just hangs after that msg
<ReCuRSi0N> boot again from the livecd and chroot again ?
<pock> put back in the cd
<pock> yes
<pock> get into chroot
<pock> than, /usr/src/linux
<pock> make menuconfig
<pock> cd*
<jatma> anyone have an LSI megaraid or Dell PERC4 scsi raid controller? i'd like to know what tools exist in linux for managing them
<ReCuRSi0N> ok I will try
<ReCuRSi0N> thanks
<ReCuRSi0N> :)
<pock> cd /usr/src/linux
<pock> :)
<pock> gl
<ReCuRSi0N> hehe
<ReCuRSi0N> I'll bbl :p
<redhook> anyone who would want that hostname should be shot
<Mik-> jatma: I have few boxes like that, yeah
<Mik-> usual drivers in kernel for megaraid
<Mik-> or megaraid 2, depends on version of PERC
<Mik-> I am not sure if you can manage raid stuff directly from command line though, never used them
<Azriel> ye gads me server has exploded
<jatma> Mik-: like what?
<_rynz-> hello fellow internet addicts
<MrEcho> hello
<_rynz-> lookin forward to another long & gloriosu weekend of irc?
<_rynz-> glorious
<_rynz-> week of irc rather
<MrEcho> your off to a bad start
<_rynz-> at the airport now, plane in 2 hours , I got spooked this morning
<_rynz-> I thought on the way here a cop was goin to pull me over
<_rynz-> i see lights flashing behind me
<MrEcho> i hate that
<_rynz-> then he speeds by chasing some dodge ram 2500 or some ****
<_rynz-> at 140+mph
<_rynz-> spooked me
<MrEcho> where you flying to?
<_rynz-> heh, i had to goto detroit to setup a lan to lan ip sec tunnel
<_rynz-> from huntsville, AL going back to AL
<_rynz-> but had issues, it 90% works
<_rynz-> from detroit to al rather(tunnel)
<MrEcho> damm that ****s that you had to fly out to set it up
<_rynz-> well what are you supposed to do
<jatma> cant you ssh :p
<_rynz-> they had no equipment there
<_rynz-> office just setup, and get this ****
<_rynz-> I wasnt authorized to purchase a pix 501 or 506
<_rynz-> due to "expense" concerns
<_rynz-> so i had to go linksys BEFSX41 there
<_rynz-> back to VPN 3000 cisco concentrator, it works
<_rynz-> but I have no ACL control with it
<_rynz-> linksys is getting better, due to cisco parent company now, but their **** still ****s
<jatma> you shoulda used an xbox with gentoox and openvpn
<MrEcho> wtf
<MrEcho> ok crack head
<_rynz-> but someone painting the office there, some 20 yr old was like: hey, i paint part time, goin to ITT for networking
<MrEcho> the BEFSX41 is nice, never played around with the IPSec stuff
<_rynz-> so i said are you going to study for CCNA
<_rynz-> he said whats that
<_rynz-> so i wonder what his "networking" cl***es there consist of
<_rynz-> he noticed me doing all the setting up
<MrEcho> its ****ing ****
<MrEcho> its a joke
<_rynz-> the best way to learn networking is just to get 3 books
<_rynz-> Sybex (Tod lammel) ccna, and the cisco press package of 2 books icnd/intro
<_rynz-> but the linksys was having some m***ive dns issues
<MrEcho> i just need to sit down for a bit and force myself to read my cisco books, im pretty much ready to take the CCNA
<_rynz-> and the remote networking is full active directory
<_rynz-> and dns is important with AD, so some **** works, some doesn't
<_rynz-> so when I explain the linksys ****s when i get back
<_rynz-> they may authorize a 501 or 506, and i get to go back
<MrEcho> lol ya i have the ICND book
<MrEcho> and 2 cisco press books
<_rynz-> the 2005 package i still have
<_rynz-> but i rarely touch it, i still read todd lammels sybex book
<MrEcho> i have a few routers, but i dont have the right stuff to connect them together
<_rynz-> i dont even know what the recommended home setup
<_rynz-> for a home lab is for ccna practice
<_rynz-> im ***uming a 2950 switch, and thats it
<MrEcho> well i have: .. give me a sec
<MrEcho> 1604, 1601, 804, 1721
<_rynz-> that older cisco stuff?
<_rynz-> dont recognzie the models
<MrEcho> i have 4 T1 csu/dsu's .. but no wic seral cards
<MrEcho> ya its older stuff
<Mik-> ccna is not difficult
<Mik-> just reading stuff usually is enough to p*** exam
<_rynz-> well i ***ume im about
<_rynz-> 3 months away from taking it
<_rynz-> im stuck on subnetting and vlsm
<_rynz-> **** confuses me
<Mik-> I took mine after 5 days course
<MrEcho> subneting isnt to hard
<Mik-> subnetting is much easier to calculate with your fingers
<_rynz-> i know once u learn it, its mad easy
<Mik-> all you need to remember is order 128 64 32 16 8 4 2 1
<_rynz-> but i havent triggered my train to snap a light bulb
<Mik-> from left to right
<_rynz-> brain rather
<jatma> who doesnt know their powers of 2
<Mik-> :)
<Mik-> jatma: you never know whom you're talking to ;)
<_rynz-> 137.64.228.61
<MrEcho> anyways... back to ****ing lame *** javascript
<_rynz-> 10001001
<MrEcho> and good old php :)
<_rynz-> is that 137?
<jatma> 128+8+1, yes


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