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<0> this shhould be tru
<1> history not used
<2> However, no swap is bad
<1> solaris swaps by nature
<3> and why is that?
<1> and is not bad
<2> since you want to be able to swap out programs that must run (like getty), when you don't need them
<3> Hawson, no i dont
<2> SufferAll: all good OS swap when needed
<2> bad OSes swap when not needed
<0> and what about running gui appz like ****ing overbloated firefox now
<1> hehe
<4> all I have to say is being able to cache the last 3GB of files accessed makes these systems quite speedy :-)
<0> my machine is a pig when i'm running FF



<2> idle processes (idle for a long time) shoudl be swapped out so the memory can be used for something else.
<2> CannedBar: yes
<2> abbychase: FF has gotten a bit fat
<3> Mem: 7857536k total, 7570372k used, 287164k free, 120556k buffers
<3> Swap: 0k total, 0k used, 0k free, 7099752k cached
<2> It could use a pack of hounds chasing it to give it some execise
<0> Mem: 902684k total, 546872k used, 355812k free, 162964k buffers
<0> Swap: 522104k total, 2112k used, 519992k free, 67136k cached
<3> cute :)
<0> that's without FF
<3> ?
<5> i would use opera if they provided an x86_64 binary, or source.
<6> I thought that said 78GB then
<1> Mem: 1026024k total, 1008460k used, 17564k free, 7300k buffers
<1> Swap: 3919840k total, 336k used, 3919504k free, 155492k cached
<3> so, if an application eats up mem because its unused thats bad?
<4> free -k total used free shared buffers cached
<4> Mem: 2073976 869188 1204788 0 298320 357540
<4> -/+ buffers/cache: 213328 1860648
<5> but it crashes over, and over again on my laptop
<4> damnit, wrong pasteboard.
<4> Mem: 2073976k total, 869248k used, 1204728k free, 298320k buffers
<4> Swap: 19535024k total, 0k used, 19535024k free, 357608k cached
<5> haha
<0> when i can't move the ****ing mouse or anything, yeah, it's kinda bad
<4> that's one of the "smaller" servers.
<0> haha
<5> abbychase, try opera
<5> OH
<5> another thing i noticed helps FF
<5> build it without java support
<3> CannedBar, really small :)
<3> :)P
<0> it seems to be allocating memory pretty well at the moment
<4> renihs: yeah. it is. That one is my testing box (so only 2GB of ram, and no multi-TB raid arrays)
<5> what version 1.5.6?
<3> as i said :)
<5> CannedBar, that just looks funny seeing 20GB of swap, and 2GB of ram
<5> makes the ram look small
<0> crap, it's like 1.0.7, but i thought i updated it ...
<3> looks like waste :)
<0> hmm
<5> the 1.5 series is in portage now
<0> i emerged firefox-bin the other day, katepls how recent
<5> 1.5.5 is what i got on my x86 box
<5> this has been months
<4> I'm runnning 2.0b1 from portage.
<0> interesting
<5> but maybe they still provide 1.0.x with ff-bin
<5> i usually compile it
<3> i would consider upgrading to 1.5.0.6
<3> :)
<0> i should prolly do that
<5> CannedBar, i meant uhm.. i dont know what i meant.
<5> but i'm guessing you do



<5> it's not masked!
<5> yeah
<5> how would you say that? "1.5.x is marked as stable"?
<0> 2.0_beta1 is in portage
<4> yes
<4> sad thing is that so far it appeared more stable on Windows than Linux
<4> though most of the crashes have been mplayer-plugin related
<0> well, it's not dl'ing the tar file, so, i'm supposed to have 1.5
<0> but i don't
<5> CannedBar, did you see that conversation i had with that guy earlier about the wrt?
<0> i disabled the plugin
<4> katepls: nah, about what time?
<5> about 4?
<4> you EST?
<5> yes
<0> still sayz i have 1.0
<4> k
<5> it's not a big deal
<5> i got myself all worked up arguing that an asus wl-hdd would be better for wardriving than a gl.
<5> "you can just mod the gl!"
<5> "the gl has 2 antennas!"
<7> hi, when I do emerge -uDpv world I get one blocks B in the list. How do I remove that ?
<8> emerge --unmerge
<7> with the package that needs removing ?
<5> pam
<5> err
<5> yes
<7> yep
<4> katepls: hah, "gatorade is better"
<7> sys-apps/pam-login
<4> asus wipes the floor with linksys's offerings
<0> Mem: 902684k total, 774932k used, 127752k free, 188456k buffers
<0> heh
<5> CannedBar, !!
<4> and both get pwnd by some of my other rotuers ;-)
<0> biatch
<5> thank you
<5> CannedBar, i'm looking to get something i can set up as a wardriving device that just sits in the trunk of my car with a gps.
<4> i like my wgt, 8/32MB flash, USB, and Atheros wifi.
<5> any suggestions under $70?
<5> the wl-hdd is around that price
<4> and my 7001, Xscale, 2 true 100Mbit ethernet ports, and 2 a/b/g atheros cards ;-)
<5> how much was that?
<4> katepls: btw, whiterussian blows compared to buildroot-ng
<5> oh yeah?
<4> I got the 7001 for $43 through a liquidator :-)
<5> have you tried rc5 yet?
<4> katepls: rc5 is old
<5> yeah
<0> brb rebooting kernel :)
<4> I haven't used it for months
<5> i was impressed with the gui
<5> i'm thinking 4 also had a gui, but i didnt like it wasnt as nice
<4> the gui is going to disappear soon to be reworked for Kamikaze which doesn't use nvram.
<5> yeah, i don't NEED the gui, but it's neat
<5> i don't like how hard it is to add something to it.
<4> you just have to learn haserl...
<5> i made a page that showed the process list.
<5> nothing real great
<5> ok, it's going home time
<9> :q
<10> abbychase
<10> 3some plz
<8> !
<10> ya


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