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<0> hmm the first ip would be 121
<1> yes...
<0> oh you mean... i got ya
<0> hehe
<1> ;)
<1> ok time to renumbed my networks/domains then
<0> beats me, never used pppoe myself
<1> yeah, heh, this would be so much simpler if i had an actual dsl modem
<1> but the only one i have has zero linux support :(
<0> cant you put it into pure bridging mode?
<0> so its just plain ip on the lan side
<1> hmm?
<0> our zyxel at work does that
<0> it handles the pppoa setup and gets a private dhcp ip
<1> as far as i can tell i have three options. modem only mode where i use a pppoe connection from the gentoo box to dial out. else router mode either with or without NAT
<0> but the 16 ips on the static subet just get routed normally
<0> *subnet
<0> well, router mode then
<0> without nat
<1> problem with routed mode is that i dont have enouh public ips, and it doesnt support half bridging mode
<0> then use nat on a machine from inside then lan?
<0> thats easy to do if you already have a linux box
<1> the wireless access point is outside the nat
<0> wap? whoa where did that come from
<1> i only have one ip not ***igned to a server, and then thats the only address available on the wireless
<1> its a wireless router
<0> i still dont understand why you cant put it into routing mode
<0> and do any nat yourself from inside the lan
<1> If i put it in routing mode, then everything physically attatched to the router has to have a public address.
<0> you can nat with just one nic
<0> no
<0> you can run as many subnets as you wish
<0> as long as they dont overlap
<0> the nat box would have two subnets bound to one nic
<0> and nat from the private to the public
<1> ok that might work
<0> where 'nic' can of course be wireless
<0> :)
<0> thats if you can spare that machine to be on all the time
<0> personally i'd prefer that solution
<0> since iptables is usually far far better than soho router crap
<1> ive got two choices. leave it as it is, and renumber the domains to take 121 as servers ip, or redo the topology
<1> there already is a machine running 24/7 because right now its natting two private subnets as well as one-to-one natting each of the public servers
<1> I think ill renumber the network. it lets me packet shape the wireless which would otherwise be outside the network, or be on an aliased interface, which wont work for shaping
<2> jatma, what if the soho runs iptables?
<2> what then huh?
<1> it already does actually :P
<2> so do mine. 8p`
<1> just doesnt support some of the more funky things such as NETMAP
<2> what hardware is this?
<1> netgear dg834g
<2> openwrt?
<1> no, standard firmware
<3> i like my 200mhz obsd router
<2> i like my 200mhz openwrt router.
<1> im turning my gentoo box into a router heh
<2> optiz0r, openwrt pwns the stock firmware.
<1> katepls: to be honest, apart from it being hidden away behind the web interface, the stock firmware isnt bad
<2> white russian rc5 is slickness.
<1> you just get bitten by the unchangable drop all inbound traffic rule
<2> optiz0r, can you do bridging with the stock fw?
<2> or set up vlans?
<1> bridging yes, though technically unsupported
<1> vlans?
<2> so one port is 192.168.0.x, one port is 192.168.1.x, one port is 192.168.2.x
<1> dont think so
<2> like managed switches do.
<1> not that i need that functionality :P
<2> i'm using 2 wrt54gs at my house
<1> anywhoo, its almost 9pm. i think i might go cook some dinner before i collapse of hunger or something
<1> cheers for the help :)
<2> one is an ap/router, the other is set to bridge the wireless with it's switch.
<2> i love that setup
<2> only gotta run nat, and dhcp on 1 box
<1> thats how mine is currently set up
<1> with three private subnets, and one public
<1> anywhoo. foooood
<2> i really want to buy one of these asus wl-hdd
<2> they run openwrt
<4> get a WRT54GL
<2> **** the gl
<2> it doesn't have USB, or room for a laptop hdd
<5> hehe
<2> why would i want a gl when i have 2 gs?
<4> dunno
<5> 1tb 1u nas > then wrt54gl
<2> gs > gl
<4> looks like that asus ships with nt4
<2> nt4?
<2> kash, thats not a fair comparison
<2> i don't even know why you would make it.
<5> i know <3
<5> but one of htoes router things would be awesome to drop at a hotel
<2> redhook, the asus wl-hdd runs openwrt. it's about the same as the wrt54g
<5> for ssh, minimal downloading :)
<2> kash, no doubt
<2> look
<2> add a gps, and a battery to one of those
<2> put it in the trunk of your car, and drive.
<5> haha
<4> katepls: thats been done many times
<2> i didn't say no one had done it.
<4> the linksys is better for that too, accepts two antenna
<2> HAH
<2> DUDE
<2> you only use 1 antenna for one thing
<2> antenna diversity is crummy
<4> when you're scanning it switches between them, you can have one on each side
<2> if you're going to wardrive, odds are you have a high gain
<2> anyway
<2> the GL doesnt have USB for a GPS
<2> the GL doesnt have support for a laptop hdd for kismet logs.
<2> err, bad grammar, but you get the idea
<0> katepls: but does it run layer7
<4> you can mod it with a serial port and mmc slot
<2> redhook, IF i wanted to mod, i would do it with my GS, not a GL
<2> AND that mmc slot mod is not easy
<2> neither is the serial imo
<2> we've done the serial mod on a couple here
<4> there's a WRT that has a usb slot on it already
<2> jatma, i doubt it
<4> you can put a hub on that and use both a drive and gps
<2> redhook, not the gl
<5> *** ring employed 240 call girls, cops say
<4> I wasnt talking about the gl
<2> ok, AND
<6> XOR
<2> you would need to add ANOTHER way of powering the external hdd
<5> either way it doesnt run gentoo no care
<2> with the wl-hdd it's already part of your power consumption
<4> ac inverter
<2> kash, actually it does
<5> hehe
<2> redhook, anyway, you obviously know everything about these routers, so i'm not going to argue with you anymore.
<2> not like i use them on a daily basis, or anything
<4> I havent used the asus, but I have the linksys models
<2> which?
<4> 2 gs v1's and a gl
<2> and you're telling me to get a gl?
<2> wtf
<4> easier then finding a v4 or earlier gs
<2> ebay++
<2> i have a stack of gls in the other room though
<2> they aren't mine, but i use them here at work a lot.
<2> jatma, btw it does do layer7
<7> why does emerge insist in building packages with an N flag that I don't want
<7> something is making it want to build seamonkey
<8> installing gnome?
<7> doing emerge -uD
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