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<0> exit
<1> holy ****, and the floppy actually works, too
<2> That's always a pluss
<2> plus++
<2> man i'm tired :\
<1> its an original ms flight sim 5 disk :D
<1> from 1995
<1> go go go
<1> Problem reading cylinder 0, expected 18432, read 16384
<1> bah
<1> k, lets try photoshop 3.0 disk 4
<1> OH SHES GOOD
<2> yeah i hate windows installers
<2> They sure do make it easy to use
<2> but that SATA driver **** has to be the worse thing i've ever delt with
<2> since most people really don't keep a floppy drive in their box anymore :(
<2> I had to borrow my brothers USB floppy lol
<1> yea
<1> i dont even have a floppy bay
<2> foxdonut: what you need to really do is this
<2> http://www.maximumpc.com/2005/01/how_to_slipstre.html
<1> ive kinda screwed it at a 37 degree angle to the side
<1> the case actually fits over it
<1> which is nice.
<1> internal floppy <3
<1> yep, ive slipstreamed this cd
<1> still wont pick it up
<2> wtf?
<1> worked fine on my nforce4 board
<2> hrmp
<1> but this is ich7
<1> which can work in either raid or ahci
<1> with the same driver
<1> i think thats what freaks it
<1> with the floppy, you get to choose
<1> here goes
<3> bewm
<4> wooo, raid floppy drives!
<5> if one's going to slipstream one can just as well use nLite to do it
<6> CannedBar: are they hot swapable :)
<7> is intel centrino duo x86?
<3> Uh-huh.
<7> heh be nice
<3> It's Intel, it's x86 ;)
<7> ya true
<7> cant intel do emt64 tho
<3> I wouldn't recommend going 64bit unless you've got a lot of RAM (like 4GB or above)
<4> yeah, late p4's and xeons, along with core2duo
<7> ya dont think this can do it anyway
<4> stick with 32bit unless you are running a server.
<7> arent most apps in 32 bit anyway
<7> like mplayer etc
<4> jianwen: they can be compiled in 64bit also. but yeah, most apps have no need.
<7> ah
<7> i just got this pc today
<7> have like 6pcs now heh
<4> and some apps *cough*tightvnc*cough* break horribly.
<7> heh
<7> but its like been gayed
<7> so many windows crap preinstalled
<7> and it has 2 partitions on the hdd
<7> and im not allowed to view the 2nd one in explorer
<7> maybe ill format heh
<4> jianwen: what manufacturer?
<7> that made the pc?
<4> yes
<7> asus
<4> oh, it's an Asus laptop ?
<7> ya
<4> didn't know they install a whole bunch of crap like the major vendors, good to know.
<7> ya heh
<4> I tend to just wipe the drive anyway...
<7> says i have a p3
<7> CPU Info: ( CPU's - Intel Pentium III, 1.83 GHz, (0% Load))
<7> think script is just dumb
<4> yeah, the Core arch is based on the Penitum-M arch which is based on the P3 arch.
<7> ah
<7> cpu seeems decent enuf
<7> has 1gb dual chan ram
<2> 2 hours left
<2> I really wish I could enjoy what I do
<2> but how can you enjoy talking to people that always whine and complain when you call them?
<2> or when they call you
<2> either way
<8> how good is WPA wireless security
<6> bitrot: the bad thing about this job is that no one is ever in a good mood when they call
<6> better than wep
<9> Obsidian,
<2> logic_box: yeah but they expect the techs to be in a good mood?
<9> depends on what cipher oyu are using
<9> if you are using WEP for WPA
<9> it's better than plain WEP
<4> CCMP is far better than WEP
<9> but still vulnerable
<6> bitrot: **** that i'm a grumpy mofo
<2> meh I try to be nice
<4> TKIP-RC4 is merely rotating WEP keys
<2> but you get a couple of those douche bags and I get tired quickly.
<10> bitrot tries to be nice
<9> for WPA
<9> AES is nice and many clients support it
<9> rotating keys is usually good enough if you rotate them often enough
<2> spb: It honestly depends on who i'm speaking to
<8> is it as vunerable as WEP?
<8> like air-snortable
<9> since it takes time to break a WEP key
<9> well
<9> if you snort a key and break it in, say,
<9> 45 minutes
<7> kinda hard to figure out a code in hex
<7> its guess work
<4> Obsidian: you can capture a packet and dictionary attack it.
<9> what good does that do you if it changes every 10 minutes
<9> however
<9> real encryption is better
<9> such as WPA + AES
<9> unfortunately some cheaper equipment doesn't support it
<9> a lot of the cheaper bridges and APs will only do WPA + TKIP
<8> CannedBar: dictionary attacks dont work on bizarre p***owrds with numbers and such
<2> 45min?
<7> someone that lives near me doesnt have any encryption on his wifi signal at all heh
<2> that's a lot of interesting IVs
<9> well bitrot
<6> Obsidian: but brute force will
<4> Obsidian: yeah, brute force still does.
<2> has to be a LOT of traffic on a wifi connection to break it in 45min
<9> i can break a 40 bit wep key in <30 minutes
<4> bitrot: if it is wep it can go quicker
<2> soul|work: with how much traffic?
<2> ...
<2> CannedBar: with how much traffic/!?!?!
<9> varies, but
<7> why bother breaking one
<9> what i tend to do
<9> is use 2 machines
<6> bitrot: you can get alot of iv packets with airreplay and speed it up alot
<4> I've killed 128bit (104) WEP in under 10 minutes.
<9> one to solicity traffic
<9> -y
<9> and one to capture
<2> CannedBar: and the traffic was?
<8> but luckily brute force is really lengthly for each additional character in the p***word
<2> logic_box: talking air-snort
<9> if you want to be more secure Obsidian
<9> use a non 2.4 frequency
<2> honestly
<2> if you enable WEP at home, you're FINE
<4> not much, just captured an auth packet and broke the key in 7 minutes by replaying it
<9> and use AES + mac authentication
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