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<0> umm no ****, but when has that stopped people from writing guides?
<0> there were gcc 4.x guides 6 months before it was even in portage
<1> thanks
<0> redhook: i understand what you mean, that explains why there is no *official* documentation, but i bet theres something on the forums
<2> yay! emergeing package 7 of 281...
<0> thrasher7: i've done a 900 package rebuild TWICE on a tbird 1.2
<2> heh
<2> i'm bringing my mythtv box back out of hiding
<2> my new tv has no tuner
<3> 16:53:13 up 13:04, 6 users, load average: 5.93, 5.51, 5.12
<0> but its not so bad when im gone or sleeping 23/24 hours
<2> and i dont legally have cable
<0> my tv just died... it was about 30 years old though
<0> i didnt even think of that, i need to put a tuner in this box
<2> i gpt me a 50" plasma
<4> what is mythtv ?
<5> linux counterpoint to windows media center
<3> my tv doesnt have any RCA or svideo input so I cant hook the dvd player up to it =(
<0> FatMom: tivo for underpriveleged geeks
<5> sliiiightly more powerful than a tivo though iamben :p
<2> if i could buy a tivo i would
<2> they dont exist in canada
<3> ebay
<5> cant you buy one on the internet?
<3> but then there's the subscription problem
<2> yes but then how does it know what channels i have
<4> oh
<0> redhook: i had the same prob, just did dvd->vcr->tv... man did it look like ****
<2> it dosent work in canada
<3> iamben: I dont have the remote for the vcr anymore so I cant change the vcr to input
<2> and the one the cable company provides sux ballz
<5> buy a dreambox then thrasher7
<2> plus then i would need to acually pay for cable
<3> tivo doesnt let you skip commercials
<2> redhook: i really just need my box to be a tv tuner
<2> my tv dosent have one
<3> and I dont think you can copy the videos from tivo to your computer
<4> but how you can have cable for free with mythtv ?
<5> cardsharing?
<2> i have a wrench and the cable box is in my back yard
<3> FatMom: he said he didnt 'legally' have cable
<2> do the math
<4> oh my bad
<3> FatMom: and with tivo you have to pay a tivo monthly subscription, no subscription to use mythtv
<3> oteren: fbi doesnt exist in canada
<5> thats what they want you to thikn
<3> RCMP is who you need to call =P
<5> anyways... "call the lumberjacks" then..
<4> my roomate used to hack and sell expressvu for a very long time.... untill the GRC came up
<3> I used to hack bodys up so that they were easier to feed to sharks
<4> but wait, im not even sure if "roomate" is the right word here...
<4> english is not my first language, but anyway
<5> roomie
<4> but
<5> ^^
<3> roomate, gay lover... same thing
<5> spoonpartner works too
<4> no im not gay, but I mean I live with him here, but in a house, I dont know how to say it
<3> room mate
<4> its not my house...
<4> ok then
<4> roomate
<4> but those guys were cool, at least... they only took hds with evil data, and didnt even touch mine
<4> they could just enter the house and say, ok, all computer here goes in the car.
<6> is it possible to page up / page down in screen if you have been in a different screen from the one you want to page up in? Like, if I'm here, chatting with you ****ers, and I switch to a screen where an emerge failed, can I page up and see wtf made it fail? Shift+pgup just pages me up to what I was doing before I typed screen -r
<7> esc-pgup doesn't work either?
<7> PgUp works fine for me
<6> esc-pgup results in ^[^[[5~^[^[[5~^[^[[5~^[[5~
<6> so does just pgup
<7> hmmm
<6> =/
<7> don't know right now
<6> oh well. I've lived with it like this for a year. I guess a while longer won't hurt
<8> rojo_: crtl-a [ then page-up
<6> awesome
<7> heh
<6> could've mentioned that backspace exits copy mode ;b
<8> esc dose too
<8> anyone here know ruby fairly well?
<9> will gentoo install on intel systems
<9> or run
<6> nope. sparc only
<6> ;b
<6> =)
<6> (I'm kidding)
<9> yah
<9> what version should i download then
<6> what's current now, 2006.0 still?
<3> 17:29:47 up 13:41, 6 users, load average: 9.36, 7.44, 6.35
<3> rojo_: yes
<9> ah bah
<9> i just noticed x86
<9> but theres only one for minimal
<8> x86 = intel
<3> EneergE: if you have a knoppix cd you can install from that
<8> you just want the minimal cd anyways
<6> EneergE: you seen the install guide?
<3> yeah, you download everything as you install
<8> no need for that damn gui
<9> i know its x86 i just noticed it but its only on minimal... so i can download that and it will d/l as it installs the rest?
<3> thats how it works
<9> alright
<3> thats why I said if you have a knoppix cd just use that
<6> just start with base, and gentoo's "emerge" script works similar to debian's "apt get" to download and install the packages you want relevant to your platform
<8> damn how can ruby now have inet_ntoa and inet_aton functions
<6> the big difference between gentoo and debian is that debian installs binary packages. gentoo compiles packages on the fly to take advantage of optimizations you have set in make.conf (3dnow, sse, etc) so your apps run like 2% faster :P
<6> I'm running gentoo on a K7 550 w/ 128mb RAM. I'm happy with it
<10> rojo_, how does debian handle use flags?
<6> (binary packages are available on some bigger packages, like Open Office. I'd recommend not trying to compile Open Office unless you get it started then go on vacation.)
<6> duhbLow7: I don't think it does at all, since you're downloading binaries. Use flags don't do much good on apps that have already been compiled.
<6> good point though.
<6> EneergE: like, if you wanted to compile mplayer with svgalib support so you can watch movies on the console, you just add svgalib to your USE= variable in /etc/make.conf; that way, not only mplayer, but also lynx and whatever else will be compiled with support for stuff that might not be compiled into the same package on other distros
<6> sorry if that sounded a bit disjoined. I'm just a stream of consciousness.
<11> bitrot: you in?
<10> so some debian maintainers determine the use flags
<10> or probably build it with + everything
<6> prolly. So you're SOL if you're trying to keep KDE off your system to trim bloat, since a lot of stuff built in debian probably requires QT, and QT requires KDE... for example
<12> qt doesn't require kde
<12> apps can be written to only require qt, but sadly, most are written that require qt and kdelib's
<13> I am on a fresh install of gentoo, how would i set up my wireless?
<13> it uses hostap, prism2
<12> |neon|: by reading the handbook
<13> Does the handbook have wireless stuff in it?
<12> yup
<12> it's pretty close to the top
<12> and I believe theres a secondary howto just for wireless somewhere on the site
<12> but, without a doubt, there's something on gentoo-wiki.com
<13> can you give me a link to the handbook?
<12> gentoo.org
<13> i dont have a browser
<12> emerge links
<13> =]
<13> its not in the configuring your network section is it?
<12> I think so
<12> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Wireless_Configuration_and_Startup
<13> ahh, found it i nthe handbook
<7> this is the ultimate showdowwwn
<14> is there a package to emerge to get an xorg.conf or do i have to create my own???
<15> X -configure should go it
<8> xorgcfg works too
<4> xorgconfig
<4> oh wait, is it teh same as xorgcfg ?
<4> CannedBar
<4> you have an amd64 3200 right ?
<15> pretty much
<4> whats your average glibc compile time ?
<15> 43 minutes
<4> damn
<15> why?
<4> its taking sooooooooooo ****ing long to compile
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