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<0> this new
<1> what does source /etc/profile do ?
<0> xorg stuff
<2> FatMom: reloads your /etc/profile
<0> about modular xorg, do i need to do anything special?
<1> oteren: follow the howto
<0> or is it fixed automagically if i emerge xorg 7?
<3> oteren: are you upgrading or is this a new install?
<0> fresh
<3> just install it
<4> oteren: you shoudl set VIDEO_CARDS and INPUT_DEVICES in your make.conf
<4> to reduce how much gets compiled
<1> there was like a gazillion of threads about problems with the new xorg and stuff, I just followed the howto and had 0 problems
<4> INPUT_DEVICES="keyboard mouse" and VIDEO_CARDS="nv nvidia vesa" are pretty reasonable for nvidia setups
<0> roger
<1> why not just nvidia ?



<5> nv=crap
<4> FatMom: just in case it dont work, you'll have something to fall back on while you debug it :-P
<5> nvidia=teh_win
<1> oh
<0> nv is the dummy driver?
<4> not a dummy
<5> nv is the open source driver
<4> it's the open source nvidia driver, not made by nvidia
<0> ah
<5> and it's poop
<1> but now I have a damn radeon video card....
<4> FatMom: no problem, there is drivers for ati too
<1> I know, ill just follow the howto,
<1> but.. so many peoples with so many problems with ati
<1> and that dri crap
<1> why they need a direct rendering manager :/
<6> where is java supposed to be
<6> cause it says it cant find it in /usr/java
<6> but i dont think that is where it said to put it
<7> _syntax_: `which java`
<8> _syntax_: in /opt
<6> jre
<6> for azureus
<6> still
<7> no, that's a command
<6> yes i am still trying to get it to work
<7> enter "which java"
<6> jre-1-5
<6> something like that
<6> i think
<6> /opt/blackdown-jdk-1.4.2.03/bin/java
<6> thsi is what it said but i updated it
<6> ?
<7> java-config will let you select which one to use
<7> I suggest you read the java guides in the wiki
<8> may want to make sure you are updated too ... they changed how the java vm is setup within the last week or 2
<9> Anyone come across this issue before: a VM being able to pick up an address from external DHCP server, but unable to ping out anywhere?
<8> Two9A: vmware?
<9> Uh-huh
<1> noooooooo not glibc again, takes about 7hours just for this package alone :(
<8> what mode it the networking in?
<9> Bridged
<4> FatMom: are you using userlocales?
<4> cause compiling all the different locales makes it take MUCH longer
<8> Two9A: have you tried in in host only or nat?
<10> locales-gen
<1> yes
<10> is your friend
<1> uh
<1> wait
<4> you shoudl have "sys-libs/glibc userlocales" in your /etc/portage/package.use
<9> I could try a host-only configuration
<1> its not /etc/locales.build ?
<1> yes proxy, I have that
<10> not anymore fatmom
<1> doh
<10> namechange
<10> locale.gen
<4> FatMom: yea, you have to set en_US* in /etc/locales.build
<1> [proxy] already done
<4> FatMom: dunno what to tell you, doesn't take THAT long for me



<0> when portage says it wants to be updated, its not harder than doing emerge portage isnt it?
<11> FatMom: did you delete all the lines in locales.build *except* en_US*?
<11> oteren: correct
<1> iamben: yes..
<11> FatMom: and "emerge -pv glibc" shows userlocales is set? if so, thats as fast as it gets for a glibc build =)
<11> and theres no way it takes 7 hours unless you are on like a p90
<3> 16:35:55 up 12:47, 6 users, load average: 3.93, 5.05, 4.56
<3> look at the load
<1> hmm
<1> so I should stop my emerge -e world then ? I try to fix this
<11> if you are already pretty far into the world rebuild, disabling those locales wont be worth it
<1> glibc is not far..
<3> you can stop the build, change locales and then 'emerge --resume'
<11> that might piss off portage, not sure though
<1> ok so now locale.gen is updated
<1> only 2 locale
<11> you mean locales.build?
<1> I thought it was updated to locale.gen ?
<1> locales.build already had only 2 locale
<11> locales.build is what is used when you emerge glibc
<3> and you need the userlocals USE flag set
<12> hiya. i'm doing a fresh install under amd64. and i have geforce 6150 onboard, when i try to emerge nvidia drivers, it blocks xorg-x11 7.1 and i can't emerge it! how can i set that it will emerge xorg-7.0?
<1> uh, we need a login p*** for pasteme.com now ?
<3> ufk_: nvidia's drivers dont work right with 7.1 yet
<1> so what about this
<3> ufk_: thats why 7.1 is masked
<1> * Warning! Gentoo's GLIBC with NPTL enabled now behaves like the
<1> * glibc from almost every other distribution out there. This means
<1> * that glibc is compiled -twice-, once with linuxthreads and once
<1> * with nptl. The NPTL version is installed to lib/tls and is still
<1> * used by default. If you do not need nor want the linuxthreads
<1> * fallback, you can disable this behavior by adding nptlonly to
<13> FatMom: you shouldent
<12> redhook: how can i set that nvidia-drivers will emerge xorg-7.0?
<3> FatMom: put 'nptl nptlonly' in your USE flags
<11> FatMom: pasteme.com, take off the www
<3> ufk_: yes
<11> and tell kitchen that its ****ing retarded to have the "admin" page be the www subdomain
<1> oh...
<1> well sorry about the flood then
<13> iamben: i dident try to hard making pasteme.com
<13> its like 12 lines of code
<12> redhook: i have no idea how to set it up. i finished emerge system, and i can't emerge nvidia-drivers cause it blocks xorg-7.1, it won't just install 7.0
<11> its still annoying that www. takes you to the login page
<13> fine i'll fix it
<13> damn www people
<1> so about the warning, does tah explain how it take around 7hours to compile glibc
<13> who types www anymore
<11> FatMom: no
<0> dont mess with the world wide web mister
<11> thrasher7: web standards say www should take you to the website
<3> ufk_: put a # in front of ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~amd64" in /etc/make.conf
<11> domain.com may or may not be the web server, www.domain.com is the web server
<13> iamben: actually they dont
<3> ufk_: installing stuff that isnt marked stable is a bad idea
<11> having www.domain.com and domain.com separate websites is a piss poor idea
<11> ...my bank does it though
<13> i HATE sites that require the www
<1> so how long should glibc takes to compile on a 3000+
<12> i have gentoo for like 3 years. i'm installing on a different system. if i'll mask xorg-x11 7.1 in /etc/portage/package.umask will be enouge? i don't need to block any other xorg-x11 modules|/
<12> ?
<11> ufk_: yes, you do need to mask some other stuff, like xorg-server and a bunch of xf86-* modules
<3> ufk_: try it
<3> ufk_: and its /etc/portage/package.mask
<11> well, when i say a "bunch" i mean xf86-input-mouse, xf86-input-keyboard, and maybe some xf86-video-* if you want other drivers like nv, vesa, vga
<13> there www works
<11> thrasher7: good man
<1> oh I didnt see the put nptonly in the use flags
<1> ill try it
<11> is there not a wiki article or guide somewhere for masking xorg stuff for nvidia users?
<12> oh ok it tells me each time what module to block
<3> iamben: no, because xorg 7.1 isnt marked stable
<3> atleast not on amd64 or x86
<11> umm no ****, but when has that stopped people from writing guides?


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