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<0> yeah, the Intel Core chips support sse3 and I think the Core2's support sse4
<1> why not?
<0> motion: they can and are
<2> p3 -> pent-m = centrino
<3> well my 1.87ghz centrino kicks the **** out of my 2.25ghz xp
<0> yeah.
<0> your p-m has 2MB cache....
<3> oh :x
<4> so does my system will benefit with the sse3 flag ^
<4> ?
<0> FatMom: venice? yeah.
<5> only if you have stuff that uses it.
<1> the p3's architecture is usually regarded as far superior to the p4 arch
<4> yes venice
<6> is there a difference between the regular stationary dualcore intel and the mobile dual core CannedBar ?
<4> kitchen: oh
<2> you have to add -msse3 to your cflags
<0> the NetBurst arch was a POS from the start
<5> sse3 is mainly for media and stuff
<1> oteren: performance per mhz? no... different power usage though
<3> oteren; id imagine the mobile is designed to run cooler and less power
<6> ok, then i'll go with -msse3
<0> oteren: the Intel Core's (the mobile ones) were a transition from Pentium-M to the Intel Core architecture. the Core 2's are the first true full featured Core arch processors
<2> not sure of any linux apps that even use sse3
<4> mplayer ?
<0> MrEcho_: video encoding.
<0> IIRC, FFT's greatly benefit from SSE3
<6> ok, then i'll NOT go with msse3 :p
<0> oteren: what processor do you have?
<4> can I just update my cflags and emerge -e world ?
<6> the very first mobile dual core cpu from intel
<0> sse3 is fine with that, but the Core2's support sse4.
<6> called... "intel duo" i think
<6> dell inspiron 9400
<0> FatMom: emerge -e system first
<0> "Intel Core Duo"
<3> cannedbar; whats fft
<1> if it supports sse3, use sse3, whats complicated about that?
<5> haha my boss just said "don't pitch the bitch"
<6> i got no idea if it supports it iamben, thats what :p
<2> cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep sse
<0> Fast Fourier Transforms
<4> CannedBar: uh ? so firts I emerge -e system, update my cflags and emerge -e world ?!?
<3> oh
<0> no, update cflags, emerge -e system then emerge -e world
<4> ahhh
<4> alright
<2> system is in world
<6> no sse3 in that list MrEcho
<0> oh wait, just world in this case....
<0> skip system
<4> ok
<0> the paranoid among us emerge -e system && emerge -e world when doing major gcc updates, like 3.3 to 3.4
<3> oteren; then dont enable sse3
<6> yeah, i kinda arrived at that conclusion too motion :D
<4> CannedBar: actually, im on a new install, and just finished to upgarde gcc 3.4, so now I was about to emerge -e world,
<1> CannedBar: for major toolchain updates that is a good idea, but it isnt necessary for cflag changes
<0> FatMom: a new install from 2005.1 or older?
<4> 2006
<0> 2006 should have 3.4 by default.
<4> what
<2> 2006.0 is really out of date...
<4> thx
<0> MrEcho_: but 3.4 when stable Dec 2, 2005
<1> 2006.0 is out of date? how?
<6> i think he is joking
<2> the new portage system and gcc/glibc
<0> nah it kinda is, I just bootstrapped a CoLinux install with 2006.0 several blocking packages that kill the install
<0> you got new portage, new glibc, modular xorg, that pam-login issue.
<1> is all this stable on x86 now?
<2> yes
<4> pam-login and shadow ?
<1> but stable gcc is still 3.4 isnt it?
<0> yeah
<6> what did i get when i used the /current/ tarball?
<0> 3.4.6-r1(or 2)
<6> is that just a copy of 2006.0?
<0> yes
<1> and isnt stable glibc still 2.3.x?
<0> 2.3.6-r2 afaik
<1> so wtf is MrEcho_ talking about?
<0> err, r4
<7> kitchen: you here?
<5> nope
<4> and what about the gcc hardened with amd64 ? I read somewhere that it is recommended ??
<5> FatMom: recommended as opposed to?
<5> i run 'normal' gcc on my amd64 without issues
<7> hey should i pay 30 for the bag pattern?
<4> well I was reading a guide found in the wiki, and the dude said hardened is not recomended except on amd64
<5> diggz: no
<7> and just start pmping them out
<7> i will make that bac on 4 of them undercuttting
<5> but you can't just pump them out
<8> what bag pattern is it?
<7> ok iwill get to 300 than check back
<5> mooncloth has a 4 day cooldown
<7> 4day?
<1> FatMom: hardened is not recommended unless you know what it does and know that you need it
<5> yes
<5> you make one moon cloth every 4 days
<7> i dont understand enlighten me
<4> ok, so I dont need it
<2> my install guide(not done) but this is what I do: http://mrecho.net:90/
<7> it cant be used for 4 days? or only 1 every 4 days?
<6> whats this deal with modularized xorg
<6> they split up xorg into smaller packages_
<7> k will just work on hetting to 300 from 275 and stick to my shard which are working out very nice
<6> ?
<2> yep
<7> seeya on later
<5> diggz: only 1 every 4 days
<6> diggz, buy runecloth, make bags, sell bags
<6> easiest way to 300
<5> diggz: see if the 'mooncloth' pattern is on the AH
<5> if it is, buy it, buy 2 felcloth, make mooncloth
<6> i did it one and a half year ago
<5> the fused wiring market is booming again
<6> you can buy the pattern in everlook too kitchen
<8> i have that mooncloth bag pattern and make them all the time, they are nice
<6> no idea what level he is though
<5> oteren: he's 42
<5> he's not gonna make it to everlook alone :P
<1> omfg noob
<5> he'd be lucky to get through felwood
<6> nah
<5> let alone through the furlbog tunnel
<6> i had all eastern kingdoms fp's at lvl 18 on an alt
<6> awesome what you can do when bored at a lan
<5> eastern kingdoms is far easier
<5> there aren't any places blocked by mobs
<6> believe me, i corpseran a LOT around burning steppes
<5> well, corpse running is one thing
<6> took me close to six hours
<5> but it takes forever
<5> it'd be far easier just to buy it on the ah
<6> anyhow, i dont envy him to be a newbie now
<9> hello lovers
<6> takes aaaaaaaaaaaages to regain those who started one and half year ago
<6> considering the layers of grinding instances at 60 :<
<5> not realy
<5> get in guild
<5> guild takes you through MC
<5> you = geared
<5> end of story
<5> MC is where people take alts and apps to gear them up for bigger isntances
<6> someone geared in mc equip might as well be walking around in greens if he meets someone in full deathdealer with aqr
<6> considering rogues
<10> I was pretty stoked to get wow running better under gentoo then windows. :P
<5> well right if you're talking pvp gear
<6> pve too
<6> actually, mc pretty much ****s for pve gear :p
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