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<0> any2vob is god
<1> shiznix: what about menu font, size, pictures, whatever?
<0> GOD I SAY
<1> oh, split didn't take shiznix away, that's good :)
<2> ha, <3 Obsidian
<0> ;P
<1> shiznix: also, what about chapters?
<0> oh, he's got that too
<1> the scripts have parameters?
<0> that man has single-handedly brought the linux DVD creation up soooo much
<0> bringing all the tools together
<1> shiznix wrote it?
<0> pshyeah!
<1> 442kb of a script file
<1> wtf
<0> his first post to the gentoo forums was a howto on dvd creation o.O
<2> Genia4: if you have both installed, it's as simple as doing any2dvd -i video_files_dir/*
<1> ahh, inline jpeg file :)
<1> well, what about chapters, images, fonts?
<2> the project's homepage is here, you can see some screenshots there -> http://sourceforge.net/projects/any2dvd/
<2> the links i pasted are the beta for the next version
<0> ah, The Flaming Lips just make me smile...
<2> Obsidian: lol, you are so good for the ego :p
<0> hahah
<2> great band, if you ever get a chance to go see 'em live, do it
<0> ah i'd love to
<0> as long as they didn't do their older stuf...
<0> like pre 90's
<0> i got one album that was pre 90's and it sounded like they didn't give a ****
<0> Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots is my favorite
<0> im thinking of making a music video for part1 of the song
<0> i dont like the flash music vids they made for it
<3> ok.
<3> i got a serious problem here.
<3> one processor is idle'n at a little over 50% and the other one is just fluxuating
<0> heheh, kde devs kick ***... this is an SVN commit comment:
<0> i can see clearly now, the rain is gone. i can see all the
<0> targets that are in my way...
<1> shiznix: do you scripts have a homepage?
<0> http://sourceforge.net/projects/any2dvd/
<3> Obsidian: fix mt pc
<1> that's not a homepage :)
<0> swhat he said it was
<0> m6: dual procs... never done it
<1> No way to pick custom bitrate
<3> Obsidian: actually i just figured it out...
<0> set the rc file
<3> its pypanel
<3> but why!
<0> m6: that ****s :\
<0> Genia4: er, the ffmpeg.conf file
<2> yeah, that's the homepage - probably gunna be as good as it gets, just a place to tell you what it does, some screenshots, some downloads + bugs and feature requests tracker
<3> weird i just changed the timer from 0 to 1
<2> Obsidian: he's right, the bitrate is not an option
<3> and now there both down to 1%
<0> shiznix: i know, but you can always force it ;)
<1> I need something simpler than raw transcode, but more feature-full than this :(
<3> still odd tho, cause it was fine before.
<1> like, when converting to 16:9 or 4:3
<1> there are 100000000 ways it can be done
<1> letterboxing, zooming & cropping, both
<2> it uses 5000-7500k bitrate, which is highly tested to be more compatible with some cheaper DVD players with lower bitrate ceilings
<1> I don't care about cheaper dvd players, I care about mine, and I want about 2000 - 3000 :)
<2> but the resolution is an option, which will halve the filesize
<1> low bitrate at a high resolution is often better than the other way around...
<0> o.O
<2> Genia4: interesting theory :)
<1> I'll explain
<0> please do
<1> consider an image, not a video
<1> let's say you have it at a certain quality, and at a resolution of 600x400
<1> now, consider double the quality at 300x200
<1> let's say your window is 600x400, so that 300x200 image is resized to fit.
<0> ah
<0> interesting thought
<1> What does resizing do, it guesses the values of pixels based on values of adjacent ones.
<1> Tons of ways to guess, all **** in specific cases, yet work well in others.
<4> yes but sometimes a slightly lower res is better then a high res w/ nasty visual artifacts
<1> so, whoever is stretching guessed some values.
<0> iamben: i agree there
<1> now, consider your original lower quality image.
<4> either extreme ****s
<1> whoever created it at that quality, had the full (probably raw) file to work with initially, so the data that was lost was the data of least meaningfullness
<1> and what you see, is what the creator aimed at getting.
<1> since I'm creating lower-quality **** from stuff that was originally of higher quality, having someone reguess what it should look like is less useful that seeing the final result as I would see it on my tv.
<1> but yeah, if you have really really really low bitrate, lowering the resolution will probably be of more value.
<1> anyway, time to study man transcode :(
<1> bah, I made a mistake
<1> 300x200 is one quarter the resolution
<1> so, one quarter the quality.
<1> s/quality/bitrate
<2> i'll give it some thought, but in all my tests, lowering the bitrate (regardless of the resolution) leads to artifacts and eventual blockyness as the more extreme lower values are used
<0> Genia4: mind you resolution is pretty much set in the dvd format
<2> this is even more pronounced if the resolution is high, so i'll stick with what works for now :)
<1> 720x576 is high
<1> 360x288 is less so
<2> Obsidian: it's possible to use VCD and SVCD resolutions on DVD
<0> aha
<1> also, scaling has other problems (not relevant to dvd's)
<1> especially when it's not straight factors of 2
<2> which is what '--compress=yes' does, it uses a VCD res.
<1> scaling = interpolation = what mathematicians, physicists and programmers call "pseudo-intelligent guessing"
<1> :)
<5> i have a parse error on line 62 before "printf" and a syntax error on line 82. i cannot see the error in my code. can someone point me the right way? http://pastebin.ca/314675
<0> scaling should always be a last resort
<4> well scaling can = interpolation or = extrapolation
<0> when scaling up
<1> yeah.
<1> extrapolation also has its problems.
<1> Less of them though.
<4> uhh extrapolation looks like *** because it actually has to guess information
<1> err, I mixed up extra and inter, inter = downscaling, extra = upscaling
<1> so the above example is extrapolation
<4> i think of it in terms of data sets
<4> if you have 2 points and guess the value of a point between them, its interpolation
<4> if you use 2 points to guess another point outside that range, extrapolation
<1> so, I was right
<1> upscaling = interpolation
<1> no, upscaling = extrapolation
<4> no interpolation is downsizing
<1> yes, right
<4> im no expert though so i cant get too scientific with it
<1> stupid terminology
<1> anyway, need to think how I'm going to handle this.
<1> Don't want to write a script that duplicates shiznix'
<0> wait, why you interpolate/extrapolate when downscaling
<0> you're removing pixels
<1> no, not quite
<0> then you're merging them
<0> gotta get rid of them somehow
<1> consider an image that is 1010101010101010101
<1> 1 being a black line, 0 being a white line
<6> and the result is just a grey image?
<0> \o/
<1> downscaling = calculating each pixel in the new image based on the original
<0> CannedBar: i would imagine
<1> the stupid method would be to remove every second pixel.
<0> LETS TRY IT!
<0> Genia4: ah, MSPAINT style
<1> downsampling is easier.
<1> it's all fourier's fault :)
<1> always the french as you can see :)
<0> wow, fantastic... i couldn't create a 30x30 image in photoshop cuz i ran out of diskspace...
<1> those are what? 20gb a piece?
<0> have to be
<0> wehre the hell did my space go
<6> Obsidian: porn
<4> 128mbit color depth
<0> geh, im not that bad
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