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<0> ya i'll flip it over then
<0> and you think i'll be able to change the voltage in the BIOS?
<0> i really wish there'd be a temp based scaling mechanism
<1> sometimes
<2> cannedbar; ok that sounds better
<2> i wish i knew the name of my fan
<2> anyone remember the fans that didnt have a motor ? they were pushed by magnets in the corners
<3> yeah
<1> yes
<2> i love those
<2> thats what i have :-/
<3> Vantec TMD (Tip Magnetic Drive)
<1> cool
<0> so the way i have it now i.e: <<tor<nado<< |case side| >>heat>>sink>>[cpu]
<2> yeah
<0> is that counter productive or just useless?



<3> have the tornado blow into the case if it is there
<0> ya it's inline with the cpu/heatsink
<2> suj; yes
<2> suj; where the **** is the air coming from ?
<0> i'll do it the way you recommend, asap, but i wanna know if this has been having a negative effect
<2> suj; you got some magical case that generates air flow out of it orifice ?
<0> ya i think it's called pv=nrt
<1> if it hasnt been blowing on the heatsink .. not good ... the side fan should be blowig into the case
<2> suj; you have the psu blowing out
<0> ya
<2> suj; the side fan blowing out
<0> and 2 empty grills
<2> suj; you need SOMETHING pushing air IN to the case
<2> suj; your have have... NO air in the case
<3> so naturally it would **** in through the empty grills.
<0> exactly
<2> im surprised you havent burnt a fan out yet
<3> and any other cracks
<3> motion: what are you smoking, you aren't going to burn a fan out like that
<0> and most of the time i have the side panel not screwed in but just placed there
<2> :-/
<0> it's like leaning on my case
<2> cannedbar; generally if there is no air 'stopping' the fan they just spin faster
<0> anyays, my biggest misconception: heatsink fan blows heat away from cpu/heatsink
<0> so thanks a alot hehee
<2> suj; either way psu have always blown out
<2> suj; the air still needs to come from somewhere
<0> ya, but not forcibly, i'd imagine
<3> motion: yeah, it will get drawn in through the empty grills
<0> you should see what happens when you open a vacuum sealed bottle
<3> his case is under negative pressure, so naturally it will draw air in
<0> right on
<0> but ya thanks again guys...im gonna need to power down obviously
<0> peace!
<3> no
<3> real men never power down
<0> ahahaha
<0> later
<3> that 6krpm fan won't hurt too bad...
<0> i must just be a bad
<0> *boy
<0> god i hope i can slow that thing down
<0> it's affecting my dreams im sure
<2> http://www.pcextreme.net/aeroflow.php
<2> thats what i have, for the athlon-xp
<4> well that was short lived
<4> decided to just *stop working*
<4> gaydar
<3> what died?
<4> can't get to the other router anymore
<2> so add a route ?
<2> generally
<2> in the IT world
<2> you connect a router to a router
<2> and they handle what we call _routing_
<2> and you use a switch
<2> to conenct multiple hosts of the same _subnet_
<4> tell it to timewarner
<2> however, for your magical mystery network
<4> I'm not putting a third ****ing box between them
<2> and like fddi rings works i believe



<2> it is advantagious
<2> at times
<2> to use a switch to like multiple routers togeterh
<2> some way, or another
<2> DUDE !
<2> its a linux box
<2> you only need one
<2> put the server on 172.16.12.x
<2> put your workstations on 192.168.24.x
<2> and: s.t.f.u.
<2> inet --> wrt [eth0]-->server-switch [eth1]-->workstation-switch OR
<2> eth0-->server eth[123[4567]]-->workstations
<4> except unless something has changed here
<4> rr will only ***ign one IP per mac address
<2> ok
<2> and your router gets it
<2> 172.16/12 is private
<2> rfc 1819
<4> not ok
<4> servers need a pulbic IP
<2> 192.168/16 is private, rfc 1819
<4> workstations need a public IP
<2> then give the public to them
<2> then thats up to you and rr
<4> which is why I have it setup like I do
<2> rr->switch->[router1/2] ?
<4> mmhmm
<2> how again is 1 router advantagious to 2 routers ?
<2> im missing a really large key in your puzzle here ?
<4> what do you mean how is 1 router advantageous to 2 routers?
<4> that question makes no sense
<2> your servers AND workstations need public ips
<4> yes
<4> each of the NAT's they're behind needs its own public IP
<2> so have the router take 2 ip's ?
<2> nm im not even gonna try anymore
<4> as I said, this setup was working 20 minutes ago
<2> and you happily broke it
<4> I don't see why the hell the swtich can't figure out it's got 1.1.2.3 on port 1, and 1.1.3.2 on port 2
<2> you realize
<2> switches are layer 2 devices ?
<2> they know _NOTHING_ about ip addresses?
<2> crack whore
<3> lol
<2> and you do realize
<2> the switch prolly event even getting the packets you think your sending
<2> and you do realize
<2> in order for it to work
<2> you need to route add on BOTH routers
<2> to send the opposite networks packets on that interface
<3> do
<3> you
<3> realize
<3> you're scolling :-P
<2> im drinking :)
<2> s/event/isnt/
<4> so what is the "gateway" ip on the static route then?
<4> since there's nothing between the two but a switch...
<1> where u setting this gateway ip?
<2> sfc; the interfaces ip
<2> sfc; that relates to that switch
<2> sfc; ie: route add 1.1.3.2 1.1.2.3
<2> or just give the interface name
<4> ya well, I have to do this from linksys ****ing interface
<4> so router add doesn't work
<4> destination lan IP: 1.1.3.2
<4> subnet: 255.255.240.0
<4> gateway: 1.1.2.3
<4> doesn't seem to like that very much
<3> SFC: that firmware doesn't have ssh?
<4> nope :/
<4> which is why I wish they had ported the **** over as I was saying
<4> ghetto hack job!
<2> what is that stock firmware ?


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