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<0> ouch
<1> i will strike down upon thee with snakes on a plane
<2> oh god no
<3> quannum: oh snap, not Sam Jackson!
<0> "how the hell you get a snake past security!!!"
<0> actually you could couldnt you
<0> if you have it on your persons and get it to stay still
<1> as long as you can fold up that little tray, i don't see the problem
<1> or have them stowed in the overhead bin
<0> they usually make pets go underneath
<0> i can only imagine you falling asleep and someone yelling snake on a plane
<1> i wonder what level of punishment they would level against you, for yelling snakes on a plane
<0> i wonder what they'd do to the guy that brought the snake on board
<1> take away his snakes atleast
<0> hahahaha
<4> ok, Ive now got X and xfce4, but how do can I start xfce and get it to register at display:0 ?
<1> startxfce4?
<4> there it is...
<4> omg that was ugly..
<5> lude, u around ?
<5> or anyoen running XGL with nvidia card
<6> xgl should workk with nvidia no problem
<5> yeas i know
<5> im ust getting this error that is not really makin sense to me
<5> Xgl :1 -ac -accel glx:pbuffer -accel xv & | im tryin run XGL
<5> but if i enter that command. i get segmentation fault
<7> can linux take advantage of each core of a dual-core processor? like, use just one to compile?
<6> yes
<6> just compile SMP into your kernel
<6> well it'll use both when it compiles and you will get a big speedup
<7> i thought that was just for multiprocessor systems
<7> but i want just one
<5> redhook, any idea on that segmentation fault
<6> two cores is multiprocessor
<6> adio_: nope
<8> purposely using only one core is stupid
<7> it'll be a production server, so i need one to remain accessible
<6> adio_: try #xgl on irc.freenode.net
<7> iamben: do explain
<8> tro: thats not how it works.
<6> tro: trust me it'll be fine
<8> just up the niceness on your builds, it will be fine
<6> when you use both cores at once everything is faster because you get more threads
<7> i want to compile on one proc and leave the other available for further work
<6> tro: it doesnt work like that
<6> the cores will load ballance
<6> and if you dont compile an SMP kernel you will not use both cores
<8> linux, and every other smp OS, is smart enough to allocate resources efficiently
<8> just up the niceness of your build processes and your "important" stuff like server apps will ALWAYS get priority
<7> hmm .. 'cause dual-cores are a lot cheaper than two separate procs
<6> change '-j2' in make.conf to '-j3'
<6> tro: dual cores ARE TWO PROCS
<6> they're just on the same die
<7> it uses up one slot
<6> yes because THEY'RE ON THE SAME DIE
<7> yeah. we're totally arguing about the same thing
<3> tomatos and tomatos are two different things.
<6> just compile an SMP kernel and you're done
<7> the general rule of thumb for -j flag is 2x#cores+1?
<9> cores + 1 i thought
<6> -j is 'number or physical cores +1'
<9> i compile everything with just -j
<7> oh ok
<9> which means "fork as many children as possible"
<6> kitchen: that doesnt give you a slowdown?
<7> that's kinda crazy
<9> of course it does :P
<8> some guides say "between x + 1 and 2x + 1"
<9> i don't do it
<9> it would probably break *most* makefiles
<7> this is a biased place to ask, but does anyone have any exp running a debian web server? easier/harder than gentoo?
<3> kitchen: have you relinked gcc to "perl -e "fork while fork" &"
<6> tro: once you compile your kernel SMP you will be amazed at how fast compiles go... and that what you want is speed so that resources get freed for other things asap
<3> oops, missed the whitesace escapes
<9> tro: depends
<9> gentoo likes to **** with their apache stuff now and then
<6> tro: you have to do a bit of configuring with debian
<9> i think debian has had their apache pretty standardized for *ages*
<6> just go with what you're comfortable with
<9> yea
<7> i'm ok with gentoo, but i don't really wanna take up too much of the server's cpu time to compile
<6> you wont with a dual core
<8> well, its not like you have to emerge -uD world daily
<8> just get the initial build done then only update for glsa stuff
<10> get it setup and youre good to go
<6> a web server doesnt use up much resources anyway unless you're getting thousands of hits a second
<7> what's the option for that again? just to update for glsa?
<5> anyone around runnning nvidia with XGL i have a problem i cant figure out
<8> tro: glsa-check
<10> adio_ what x versions you trying to run?
<7> iamben: thanks
<8> adio_: if its a segfault, that probably isnt an nvidia specific problem
<5> okay well im not sure what kinda problem that is, hasnt happened at all through the whole XGL install
<10> 2 hrs ago he couldnt compile xgl, get any further?
<8> most segfaults i see (in gentoo) are from bad cflags or bad hardware
<5> im runnin Xorg 7.0
<11> win 5
<10> did you reemerge nvidia drivers?
<5> warflyr, yea compile is done that worked fine after u helped me out, but now for some reason when executing Xgl :1 -ac -accel glx:pbuffer -accel xv
<5> its spits out segmentation fault
<10> emerge nvidia-kernel nvidia-glx
<10> or something
<10> hm
<6> anyone have their / on a lvm partition?
<6> just need to know what to put in grub.conf
<5> warflyr, did that already still segmentation fault
<10> adio_ try doing startx, and glxgears
<10> once you know glx is working, then start playing with xgl
<5> same thing segmentation fault
<5> hmmmm
<5> interesting
<5> reboot
<5> perhaps
<10> that wont help
<5> k
<10> doubt it
<5> yea okay
<10> startx and xgl seg fault?
<5> i havent gotten that far, i was just testing to see if XGL would open
<5> but glxgears gives me a segmentation fault too
<10> ah
<10> after you've loaded X with startx?
<5> well im in X right now
<10> dont you run Xgl :1 -ac -accel glx:pbuffer -accel xv from the console?
<5> yeap
<10> glx is fked up then
<5> hmmm
<10> glxinfo?
<10> cant remember all the app names
<5> segmentation fault
<5> there the problem for sure
<10> wow
<5> thats messed up
<5> ill brb
<5> warflyr, okay well glx is defianetly not working, im not sure if its my nvidia drivers or what
<5> i unmerged then then emerged then, switched to the nvidia driver
<5> and still nothing
<10> are you doing this out of X?
<5> yeap
<10> what are you emerging/unmer..
<5> nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel
<10> hmm
<10> what ver?
<12> anyone know of a good program to sort and view squid logs?
<5> nvidia-glx-1.0.6629-r7 nvidia-kernel-1.0.6629-r6
<10> are those masked?
<5> nope
<10> lsmod
<10> ?
<5> not loaded
<5> and if i modprobe nvidia i get this
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