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<0> i think*
<0> or two days ago
<0> should i have en_US/ISO-8859-1 in the userlocales file?
<1> i dont know
<1> wouldnt hurt
<0> and one more thing
<0> anyone tried 7.1 with nvidia drivers?
<0> xorg 7.1
<1> it doesnt work
<1> abi is incompatable
<2> zimyc: Visit the Scandinavian forum on forums.gentoo.org :-)
<0> the howto there is from the beginning of 2003 or something
<2> hmm, at least some of the info still work ..
<0> :P
<1> for?
<2> eg support for and :)



<0> i think its pretty okay now, LINGUAS="no_NB no nb" and LC_ALL="no_NB" and LANG="no_NB"
<0> but somewhere i saw it complaining about LANGUAGES="" something
<1> follow a utf-8 guide
<0> where do i set that?
<3> this is way too complicated for me v.v *bites bjorn and xzz*
<2> Stine`: Go home and do your homework :)
<3> .. D:
<0> piercey: do you have a nvidia card?
<0> gfx card
<1> yes
<0> and you run ~x86? except on xorg-x11?
<4> rawr
<1> i run amd64
<3> =D
<1> but i run a bunch of ~amd64 packages
<0> well
<2> piercey: Where's the parallel(l)-fetch feature documented?
<1> xzz: on the ****ing internet
<0> do you thing "ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86"" in make.conf would work okay? and just comment it when i emerge xorg-x11?
<2> Ahh, that would be the last place to search ...
<1> zimyc: i dont recommend you run a full ~system
<5> ~x86 = bad
<1> i'd recommend you unmask packages as you need to
<0> :P
<1> and no commenting that out when you want to emerge xorg is an awful idea
<1> you'll break yo ****
<0> dude
<0> why?
<1> just mask certain xorg 7.1 packahe
<0> certain?
<0> its like, 200 packages
<1> yes im certain
<1> no
<1> iirc, xorg 7.0 is stable on x86
<1> you dont need ~x86 to run xorg 7.0
<2> yep
<0> yes, and if i mask >xorg 7.0 packages
<1> zimyc: no
<1> you only need to mask about 6 packages
<0> well
<0> im thinking of doing a full reinstall without a full ~x86 :P
<6> piercey pasted "LOIKE LOOK AT MY CAPS", view at http://genpaste.pengu.in/pastes/show/242
<1> gogogo
<0> well
<0> im reinstalling without ~x86 as default now anyway
<0> :P
<1> good
<0> looking forward to 2-3 hours install
<0> i like it, i really do
<0> no joke
<0> :P
<1> keep that list of packages for your package.mask if ya wanna run ~arch xorg
<1> point of gentoo is ya dont need reinstalls :/
<0> whats ~arch really?
<1> testing branch
<1> stable but not tested enough
<0> so more secure than ~x86?
<0> "secure" being stable etc
<1> ~arch is ~x86
<1> i say arch because you can have ~x86, ~amd64, ~ppc etc



<0> oh
<0> recommend running ~arch kernel?
<1> no
<1> unless you want some features for you new hardware
<1> i run ~ kernel on my laptop for the bcm43xx drivers
<0> well
<0> all my hardware works perfectly in 2.6.16 anyway
<1> so stay with stable gentoo-sources
<7> zimyc: you could try the ck-sources they arn't stable for everyone (for me they are not) but your system will be a bit more responsive
<0> well
<0> whats different?
<8> what file is the ip saved in if you have static IP setup?
<1> /etc/conf.d/net ?
<7> for me it behaves better in multitasking like having two big apps running at the same time and switching between them, for example under load firefox 'boots' about 2 sec faster.
<7> But i have random hangups during booting :(
<2> zimyc: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ckolivas/kernel/
<9> mwschall Pasted http://pasteme.com/p.php?id=128
<2> I've been using ck-sources for a few years now, and it has been fairly stable ...
<2> nitro-sources is even more desktop orientated - and more buggy too ;)
<0> hmm
<0> ck-sources is the same kernel, just with a few patches etc?
<0> i can use my old .config?
<1> ya
<0> piercey: do you have to run NVmakedevices.sh at startup?
<1> no
<0> do you have udev?
<1> of course
<2> zimyc: All sources are based on the vanilla kernel, but with different patches. http://gentoo-wiki.com/Kernel_Sources
<1> devfs is long gone
<0> well
<0> i have to run NVmakedevices at startup in order for the nvidia-kernel to find my nvidia card
<1> what card?
<0> geforce fx 5700
<0> agp
<1> are you sure?
<0> very
<0> :P
<1> (that you have to run that)
<2> It's a problem listed on http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_nVidia_Drivers
<0> yep
<2> I have to run it too.
<0> hmm, not 100% ofcourse, i did alot of stuff along with adding nvmakedevices at startup, but it worked at next reboot thats for sure
<7> you have a udev only system?
<1> weird
<0> udev only? :P
<7> meaning no static dev entries
<0> guess not
<1> you can have static entries with udev
<2> Hmm, does the RC_DEVICE_TARBALL work with udev?
<1> but everyone uses udev since 2005.0 profile, no one uses devfs, its not even supported
<0> well
<0> i used devfs with 2.6.16 here the other day :P
<1> wtf+whythe****
<0> hehe
<10> zimyc, I found something in the git pull I made
<0> well, i read the nvidia thing before installing, and i thought, hmm, why not do as the gentoo handbook says
<7> i know but you CAN have udev without static entries then if something is not recognized by udev it wont show up
<10> the "Apple Onboard Audio Driver" :)
<0> :P
<1> the gentoo handbook doesnt have devfs **** in it anymore?
<0> yes it does
<0> iirc
<0> :P
<1> been a while since i did an install and it wasnt there (like a year ago)
<10> zimyc, and it lets me chose my specific chip (the TAS)
<2> I think setting RC_DEVICE_TARBALL="yes" in /etc/conf.d/rc should remove the NVmakedevices.sh-problem ..
<0> Hunterkll: nic
<0> e
<10> no more powermac DMA driver for me :)
<11> udevs i think uses inted of devfs
<10> now to make CC="ccache gcc" and see how long it takes
<1> hmm
<0> ill have an answer to the "RC_DEVICE_TARBALL" thing tomorrow :P
<10> device tarball?


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