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<0> ok, Ive got Win/IIS/php and gentoo/Apache/PHP showing data from the same db (gentoo-box) but only IIS is capable of handling nordic characters right
<0> any suggestions?
<0> where do I add the correct locales?
<1> ummmm apache can handle any character set
<1> you probly just dont have it set for UTF-8
<0> possible
<1> http://bucket.thrashcorp.com/httpd.conf
<1> see: AddDefaultCharset UTF-8
<1> change that if UTF-8 is not the character set you use
<0> actually, when testing with a php file containing it works fine..
<0> seems like its the data behing pulled from the db in the wrong format...
<2> For any of you who use nagios, i'm writing an OS independant version in PHP. if anyone wants to beta test let me know plz.
<0> the application is Mantis btw..
<0> Ill try some cli selects from the db..
<0> getting garbled in the cli as well, might it be that the mysql client apps need to be rebuild after I changed locales.gen to support my locales?
<1> kinsey: you need to set mysql to UTF-8 as well
<1> that is likely your problem
<0> actually, phpmyadmin running on the same box shows it just fine..
<1> it might do a convert for you
<0> googling it seems that there is some bugs in Mantis for this..
<1> pma does a lot of cool ****
<1> ok
<0> Ill try...
<0> allready at utf-8..
<1> try turning it off then
<0> http://www.mantisbt.org/mantis/view.php?id=6226
<0> anyway, getting to late for this :)
<1> yeah that could be it too
<3>
<3> hm... guess that doesn't work
<3> well... day 2 and i still haven't figured out why my java doesn't work in gentoo :)
<3> awesome
<4> pebcak
<1> ok i should never read any comments bout a post on php again
<1> on digg that is
<1> people on both sides piss me off
<1> "who needs oop, it's stupid"
<1> "php ****s, cause i have to use $this-> inside objects"
<0> well, it ****s..
<0> just loves functions like register_globals and explode
<1> whats wrong with explode?
<1> i dont use register globals, cause its stupid and its not even on by default anymore
<0> same thing thats wrong with register_globals..
<0> suddenly variables just exist..
<1> they both do entirely different things
<0> or overwrite others..
<1> you dont get how explode works do you?
<1> $array = explode(' ', "give me each word in a scentence")
<0> to some extent
<1> you get an array of variables
<1> its nothing special
<0> yes, but when used with e.g mysql, suddenly all the fields has been instantiated as variables
<5> sadly OOP is over rated and usually just make people write fugly PHP
<1> kinsey: no
<0> thats how Ive seen it used..
<1> ok so this channel is as bas as everyone else
<1> kinsey: example?
<1> cause your just making **** up
<1> you dont use explode on mysql queries
<1> Malph: OOP helps a LOT on larger projects
<1> you NEED it
<0> not right now no, but ive seen code from friends of mine, and it doesnt look good. Off course I recon there are good and bad habits.
<1> http://source.gentoo-portage.com/
<1> there is my code
<5> I agree with larger projects but most people use OOP on smaller projects that causes more overhead in system resources than the script would normally need.
<1> but it also helps for rapid development
<1> see mikevalstar.com
<1> anyway i have to go
<5> it's not that it is bad it is just that you need to know when it is needed
<1> i use if for everything
<1> but then again, i dont include any html in my php
<1> not a single <
<5> makes more sense if you say not a single tag
<1> i dont even use a single english word that gets outputted to the user
<5> nice
<6> renihs: He just annoys me is all, i find his actions obnoxious, I just don't see why somoene can't just sit and do their work, what is so hard about that, a lot it seems.
<6> I've been thinking of ways to implement some sort of video feed
<6> I could bring a 'plant' in
<6> that's my only idea, and hide the camera in there lol
<6> a little plant life wouldn't be so bad around here though
<6> perhaps a bamboo stalk those always grow so well
<6> Hopefully it will get large and crush him
<7> good night, folks. im planning to clone a system, using two identical harddrives, and dd for copying it. any thoughts on this issue?
<8> rvt; gl. ask bigger questions if you run into problems .. ;)
<8> oh and dont get if= and of= mixed up ;)
<9> can anyone help with a LVM2 install... keeps telling me devices not found......
<7> motion_, im scared with the bs= thingie.
<7> motion_, im running on a LSI 320-1, someone said 2048k would be perfectly safe...
<10> should i be worried that i can't have both pam-login and shadow installed at the same time or have they merged
<11> damn
<11> got this **** PINNED
<12> obsidian
<12> you remove pam
<12> and then
<12> install shadow
<12> read the instructions wiki how to remove pam
<12> fuk pam.
<13> dont remove pam.
<13> remove pam-login.
<14> true
<10> iamben: i removed pam-login, emerged shadow, tried to emerge pam-login back in but it said no, is that normal?
<10> i get nervous around system packages
<13> you dont need pam-login anymore, its functionality is included in the new shadow
<13> hence the block
<10> ah, thats what i was wondering
<10> thanks :)
<15> when installing gentoo.......does it install from the net like debian?
<13> yes
<13> you can do netless, but very few do
<15> well its asking me for a tarball URL
<15> im doing a stage 3
<15> wich one should I choose?
<15> newbie to gentoo
<15> and I want to get a full system installed
<15> and then configure it later myself
<13> what cpu?
<15> where do I get a stage tarball?
<15> celron 3ghz 2gb of ram
<13> get the i686 stage3 from a gentoo mirror
<15> during the install?
<15> how?
<13> you arent using the gui installer, are you?
<15> yea
<15> iam
<13> i cannot help you.
<15> heh
<15> I usually do terminal mode, but gentoo is freaked out
<15> wierd *** install methods
<15> i thought debian was wierd
<15> debian is nothing
<13> use this: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?full=1
<13> we can help you with that
<16> i didnt think gentoo was THAT odd
<16> different yes, but it really feels like the system is molded to fit your needs
<17> anyone running sli?
<18> hm
<18> trying to find a good howto page on ircd for gentoo
<18> no /etc/conf.d stuff for it... :)
<19> ratbox ircd is what most of the efnet servers run
<19> I doubt there's any packages for an ircd
<18> sure there are ;)
<18> net-irc
<19> why would you anyawys?
<19> an ircd isn't exactly something you want a default configuration for
<19> you might as well build it from source
<18> ircd-hybrid is in the portage tree too
<18> all you have to do is edit the ircd.conf and rc-update it
<18> that's all i needed.. i need to run a local irc server
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