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<0> tiz the same with linux itself dont ya think?
<0> or anything for that matter
<1> logic_box: most languages have mpi/pvm bindings, if you mean -that- sort of distributed ****
<2> tell feti php ****s :)
<2> matja: no it's an actual ruby module that allows you to share objects across multiple systems
<0> ruby is still fairly new in the scheme of the development world, im going to give it a few more years before i learn it
<2> more or less client/server
<2> Epik`: it is a fairly nice language
<0> i hear alot about ruby on rails being similar in competition to "ajax"
<0> and i say "ajax" because ajax isnt actually a language
<3> Epik`: tell the Web 2.0 people that :-P
<0> its the web 2.0 people who say Ajax isnt a language
<0> i program with ajax daily, i love it... and i know its not a language
<2> Epik`: ruby on rails is a development framework ... not compitition to ajax
<0> its what they are doing with it tho
<0> like, movable divs etc..



<4> there are asterisk gems for ruby
<2> the stuff they are doing with it can be done in any other language with the use for scriptaclious and prototype
<2> thats all rails uses
<2> rails dose make alot of it easy .. probably because it came out about the same time as ajax and they reaziled the need to make the ajax **** easier
<0> making things easier just makes it harder for the seasoned profesionals
<0> cuz every noob starts playing with it, and they break the internet
<2> hehe you can still write it all by hand but there are rils functions to generate alot of the basic js code
<5> in other words the lazy old farts dont wanna change
<6> CHANGE = BAD
<6> NOCHANGE = GOOD
<7> nochange=dead
<6> Lets keep doing the same mistakes over and over again woo
<2> SufferAll: isn't lazyness the mark of a good sysadmin :) .... script everything so you can be lazy
<6> renihs: well look at society, nobody learns.
<5> aye
<5> im lazy as hell
<6> logic_box: and script **** to break
<7> me too
<2> bitrot: thats only if you are hourly and need overtime :)
<6> You're not hourly
<0> change is fine
<6> are you salary? O.o
<5> my shop has ran fine for 2 years and the only worry I have is hardware issues
<2> yea
<6> omg
<6> poor bastard
<0> but dont make it so easy that anyone can do it, and they start writing things like the ****er who made the first popup
<5> uptimes 700+ days on multiple servers
<2> i did get paid for my week on the beach though :P
<6> well yeah
<6> i'm hourly too
<6> i get 'vacation'
<6> or 'PTO'
<2> bitrot: it's not bad except like last night/this morning when i had to come in
<3> SufferAll: 700+ days without a kernel update... care to share those IP addresses?
<6> but you were on call yes?
<2> yep
<6> i go on call this friday -.-
<5> you can do kernel updates without a reboot
<6> and this whole buyout has been SLOPPY
<6> they just let it fall to the ground
<6> was kind of funny
<3> orly?
<3> I didn't know such a thing was possible.
<2> uugghhh i hate buyouts ... so much work to fold everything in
<0> SufferAll with power managment module getting more and more stable... you can now "suspend" your system to emulate a reboot to patch your kernel
<0> with your uptime staying normal
<0> aswell, as do hardware changes in suspend mode
<5> sides I never said my shop was linux
<5> mostly solaris
<5> and they dont like patching all that much
<6> this dude is...jesus FIng CHRIST
<6> he put the guy on hold to chew his god damn ICE
<6> again
<2> walk over ... slap the ****ing ice to the ground ... walk away
<2> ok work
<8> <3 solaris
<8> <3 zfs
<8> solaris10 > *
<8> !!



<5> they finally release zfs?
<8> ya
<8> in update2
<8> it kicks ***
<5> tookem long enough
<8> ya well, when sun releases something to solaris
<8> it works
<5> itll be ported soon then
<8> I'd rather they "take long enough" and know that it's going to be bullet proof
<0> zfs?
<5> suns answer to veritas replacement
<0> ah
<8> ...
<8> not really
<5> atleast for a file system
<0> whats so good about it?
<5> dont know yet
<0> haha
<5> have not played
<0> t?
<8> hard to explain what's "good about it"
<8> there's about a hundred things
<8> it's really just better to read up on it honestly
<8> the way they do checksums so that nothing ever becomes corrupt
<0> fine :\
<8> it's 128bit
<0> oo
<8> you can increase your pool sizes on the fly
<8> realtime snapshots
<8> all sorts of ****
<0> :|
<0> kinda makes me wanna use solaris
<8> you can shrink the pool sizes on the fly as well
<5> suns answer to vxfs
<8> that's what is going to be my home file server
<8> whenever the **** I get a new power supply
<1> i'd use solaris if they supported more than like 4 sata chipsets
<1> :p
<8> I dunno, it's worked on all my ****
<8> but I guess we've mostly put it on tyan mobo's for the x86 version
<8> put in a request at opensolaris
<0> I went into one of the mail servers at work today, its been up for almost a year... found out it's on Redhat 8 Psyche
<0> almost killed someone
<0> was good
<8> lolz@rh8
<8> they had a bugzilla server at my old university that they wanted to use
<8> it was running ****ing 7.3
<8> never been patched
<0> haha
<0> r00t
<8> and had all sorts of remote management services running
<8> oh ya, I'm sure it was
<0> surprised its not sitting on efnet somewhere
<8> I rebuilt it with centOS
<8> I'm sure it's still got all sorts of security holes though, I doubt any of them patched it
<9> i emerged pingtunnel but I can't figure out how to launch it, the pingtunnel commands won't work?
<8> which pingtunnel
<4> logic_box: hah, wow, i just read what i said earlier, totally wasn't thinking :P i meant AJAX gems
<10> zzz
<6> This guy is something else let me tell you what, he sits there in his chair he moves around like a ****ing 5 year old, he chomps on his mother****ing ice (just took another hit) and then to top it the **** off he makes weird ****ing noises, like whinning noises and ****, just like a 5 year old, this guy should have a documentary made about him, seriously.
<6> All the 'racial sterotypes' he hits right on the ****ing nose too.
<11> you at school? ;p
<7> bitrot, capture him
<7> (video)
<7> alot of your brainactivity is already dedictated to that guy, seems important to you
<7> :)
<3> bitrot: yeah, a video would be great
<8> mmm, aterm
<7> lol, IP over DNS tunnel
<7> :)
<8> why?
<12> anyone know how to setup an anonymous bittorrent connection?
<3> Malph: it's not really possible to anonymize the peer traffic unless you want to abuse tor or some other network designed for legitimate anonymizing
<13> ok, Ive got Win/IIS/php and gentoo/Apache/PHP showing data from the same db (gentoo-box) but only IIS is capable of handling nordic characters right


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